The reason why 4th gen GGs can grow this fast is because BP never had total dominance like BTS does with BGs

    BP was the undisputed 1st place but they're not very far from the other GGs in their gen. With proper promos/ mediaplay on YG's level, now SM has proven they can make another BP (not literally but i'm talking about success only). Aespa with 1 year can sell 1m, can you imagine what they will become in their 4-5th year? People can be staying in denial now but it's happening: a girl group who can surpass BP has arrived.


    On a side note, BTS aren't safe either. If their sales keep declining and group activities keep being reduced when new BGs keep growing and, in 2-3 years, we'll have a new face of BGs. Be prepared Armys :wink:

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    It's just that Aespa is good, else the situation would've been the same for ggs.


    I mean Aespa got 1M+ preorders before their 2nd anniversary, meanwhile NCT was able to do that in their 4th year. And mind you NCT is like the 2nd top bg in kpop, who have much better sales than the rest of bgs.


    So ARMYs don't need to be prepared until there's another newly debuted group who has IT factor like the above groups.

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    So ARMYs don't need to be prepared until there's another newly debuted group who has IT factor like the above groups.

    Sm new boy group lol I'm serious. Sm is showing they will always push quality over quantity. When they do release a boy group this will be a boy group to take down the current top boy group which will probably still be BTS (Not saying they will succeed) but aespa is bits :eyes: so it's anyones game lol

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    With proper promos/ mediaplay on YG's level, now SM has proven they can make another BP (not literally but i'm talking about success only).

    First of all what is this mediaplay you are talking about plus yg never actively pushed bp??? Also bp hasn't had a cb in 2 years and they have already sold a million in 2020 when sales boom wasn't even that huge like in 2022 plus without 5 version of cheap digipacks. Not to mention bp dominates in every criteria, same cannot be said about aespa for now. So idk if you are a my or not, you need to stop this bs.

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    It's just that Aespa is good, else the situation would've been the same for ggs.


    I mean Aespa got 1M+ preorders before their 2nd anniversary, meanwhile NCT was able to do that in their 4th year. And mind you NCT is like the 2nd top bg in kpop, who have much better sales than the rest of bgs.


    So ARMYs don't need to be prepared until there's another newly debuted group who has IT factor like the above groups.

    We all know that 4th gen benefited of from previous gen groups who has made kpop global. In that case Aespa has benefited a lot from NCT & Red Velvet. Sure NCT benefited from EXO & SNSD etc. So comparing them is so stupid.

    lol my's can only dream aespa can surpass bp, easpa only have digitals and album sales but in other area they are flops, whereas bp dominates everything,

    Hmm what are you talking about?

    First, I don't see anyone touching BTS yet and not near future, unless they gain huge amount of fans ww. Do you really think BTS achievements are that easy to surpass? Must be delusional.

    Second, yes Blackpink isn't BTS, but no one is touching rookie BP internationally, on their second comeback they were already charting on bubbling under, they were already breaking yt views. They were leading. But now way too many GG's are on the same level and you can't tell who will win. And even now BP without comeback are leading every metric.

    Third, kpop sales are booming this year. Everyone is selling so well that it'll be stupid to say someone who has large fanbase wouldn't. Even red velvet who barely had 150k sales, sold 650+k.

    So no not yet

    No one can be on top all the time you know? BTS will have declining sales for sure. But please, even with declining sales, no kpop group can ever achieve what BTS achieved.


    There's too many to list.. Simply impossible

    IVE within 6months already sold over 650k with just single albums and have best combination of both domestic and international stats maybe u should worry about that.

    BTS has so much more than album sales and digitals. They have highest tours, blockbuster movies, daesangs from Korea and other countries, order of cultural merit, a fandom that is as famous as them and known to have the biggest, most loyal, most savvy fandoms, met many Presidents (as special guests) and so much more.


    I’m sure one day one group will at least be at par with BTS but not groups that have debuted now. They might reach one or two parameters tops but not all.

    album sales have skyrocketed this pandemic. wait til bp comeback to see how much they have grown. i'm pretty sure they'll have easily have as much as 2.5-3 mil. aespa's growth is amazing but no gg have that international dominance like bp does. if they touch bp's spotify, billboard, youtube numbers, then we can talk.


    bts, even though i'm not a fan, is already cemented. 4th gen bg's even with their multi million album sales, are still nugu because they're nowhere to be found in digital charts.


    gg's are always digital monsters. and because kpop grew so big right now, they were also able to grow their fanbase, thus, selling more albums than previous gens. all we need right now is a digimon bg, and we can hail a 4th gen bg leader.

    If there's an actually good boy group then they will end up doing well and it will not depend on bts at all the same way bts rising to the top was inevitable and no other groups rising or falling affected them. None of it matters to bts anymore. They have already achieved legend status.

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    On a side note, BTS aren't safe either. If their sales keep declining and group activities keep being reduced when new BGs keep growing and, in 2-3 years, we'll have a new face of BGs. Be prepared Armys :wink:

    can't say anything about the aespa/bp situation, since i don't know the details of their album sales etc.

    but, unless a bg reaches 3m+ album sales with only 2 expensive versions, bts is gonna be safe for a long while.

    Aespa rival bp?


    Lmao. They might sell 1m for this album but it won’t even have a tenth of the success bp did digitally

    No, Blackpink hasn't had a comeback in literally 2 years and the album market has grown immensely since then. Anyone and their moms can hit 1 million album sales these days, especially with bulk buys from China. Literally, look at boy groups selling 1 million albums left and right, and yet when it comes down to it, none of them have reached the same influence as BTS.


    I mean, we should have known when a group as previously lacking in album sales like Red Velvet suddenly had huge explosive sales. That was a sign that the album sales for girl groups had increased.


    I think Aesps is just another sign that girl groups have finally reached the point where many will start hitting 1 million album sales soon. I can see the same for IVE, Lessarafim in the near future as well.


    When BlackPink comes back though, they will probably be hitting around 2 million.

    this is a bad take blackpink hasn't been active for the past 2 years other than the pre-orders, which was bound to happen the marketed is growing yet other girl groups can't come to blackpink's overall success, which is why certain label been so obsessed with trying to surpass blackpink.


    Blackpink will come back stronger and proves once again their impact.

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