I don't understand why ive vs Aespa when it should be ive vs lesserafim.

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    Their debut single is doing better than aespa's.

    leave lsrf out of this mess. after all these noisy controversies, the fans are tired and have no energy for fanwars. Now we just want to love the girls in peace :cryingk:

    I don't know why Mys think because Aespa is having a comeback that they are suddenly ahead of all other 4th gen groups.


    IVE is already about to outsell Aespa last album (with an album that only has 2 songs literally 5 months after debut). They are really going around proclaiming that there is no way IVE could possibly catch out to them, which is so delusional Especially because Itzy alone is already on their asses.


    Instead of album sales where any 4th Gen group can sell as much as them, Mys should worry about their digitals.


    As for Le Sserafim, it's only their debut. They did well, just gotta give them time for a comeback. You can't expect them to catch up when every other 4th Gen group has already had at least two comebacks already.

    Dalla Dalla >>>>>>>>>> Eleven >>> Fearless >>> Latata >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom of hell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Flop Mamba

    LSF only debuted 5 minutes ago and already got hit with a scandal. Can we let them breathe at least until their first comeback?

    Because:


    1. They are in limbo due to the scandals

    2. Wizones don’t fight amongst themselves

    3. LSF just debuted


    LSF got an actual hit right away unlike aespa who flopped on debut. MYs aren’t being as covert as they think with these trash panda threads.

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    Well, obviously Lesserafim have more hyped than aespa for being first hybe gg. LSF is nothing without hybe. The member is not attractive and Kazuha is overrated. They are not at the same level as IVE and Aespa both musically and members.

    I like Ive they're great performers but aespa being better than lsf? They're not even in my top 5 best 4th gen gg.

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    Well, obviously Lesserafim have more hyped than aespa for being first hybe gg. LSF is nothing without hybe. The member is not attractive and Kazuha is overrated. They are not at the same level as IVE and Aespa both musically and members.

    Aespa's members is more boring tha Le sserafim. Winter is cute, but that it. Karina, Giselle and Ningning is nothing in term of being attractive. They are completely carried by being in a big company otherwise Aespa is 'completely nothing' without SM while lesserafim only 'nothing' without big company.


    Also, don't forget about IVE will also nothing without Wonyoung. Not saying it is Wonyoung and friends, but really without Wonyoung, Eleven aren't going to do 1/100 of how they did right now.

    since I am already here.


    NMIXX is also nothing if they come from smaller company. They are talented in vocal and dance and probably most talented group in 4th gens. However, they are not attractive at all. Sullyoon's visual is more overrated than Kazuha. The fact that JYP have the audacity to comeback with O.O with these members is hilarious


    Itzy flopped in S.K and nobody care about them. People talk about they have international, but never reached what IVE did in both Spotify and Apple Music is hilarious.


    Stayc, well they are not nothing. However, their song is overrated. The members is kinda attractive, but whatever. I don't care about this group.


    g-idle, funny how people start to do 4th gens leder because of Tomboy. Their past digital is shit and their physical is shit too. The only think I like about this group is the members and TomBoy is actually good.


    so,

    NMIXX > Aespa > Lesserafim > Itzy > Stayc > IVE > G-dile


    ranked by which group is the biggest nothing.

    lessrafim is less loved debut song but their variety competence is great

    Wizone will never wish true fanwars between the girls ive vs lessrafim..

    Nobody will remember them ,il sure chaewon and sakura will get solo carrers soon


    The members look like co workers,i notice the members forget bullying scandal of garam...They look more happy now ...

    Hybe trying cover up with jennie and Taehyung dating rumor...

    IVE already surpassed aespa globally and locally, aespa are not that group y'all think they are cause they're boring and don't have much appeal.

    Love Dive already has more longevity than Savage will eventually surpass it's total points in sk,

    also IVE's single album sales about to surpass Savage. :cryingr::cryingr:

    Next Level was a local hit and is nowhere near as big as Eleven was globally.


    Also the fact that fearless lasted longer than savage on spotify is telling... MYs need to worry about that before trying to put down IVE.

    Lesserafim are even bigger than aespa globally but y'all want to mention IVE who are leagues ahead of Aespa in 6 months?

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    Aespa's members is more boring tha Le sserafim. Winter is cute, but that it. Karina, Giselle and Ningning is nothing in term of being attractive. They are completely carried by being in a big company otherwise Aespa is 'completely nothing' without SM while lesserafim only 'nothing' without big company.


    Also, don't forget about IVE will also nothing without Wonyoung. Not saying it is Wonyoung and friends, but really without Wonyoung, Eleven aren't going to do 1/100 of how they did right now.

    Eunchae is dragged a lot on twt but even she's 10 x better than best member of aespa.

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    Well, obviously Lesserafim have more hyped than aespa for being first hybe gg. LSF is nothing without hybe. The member is not attractive and Kazuha is overrated. They are not at the same level as IVE and Aespa both musically and members.

    And aespa is nothing without SM. And aespa definitely had more hype than LSF online. The revisionist history is insane. Eunchae is literally LSF’s worst performer but she has actual stage presence than Aespa. And their main vocals are better than Ive’s. And LSF’s bsides are immaculate. Definitely on the same level. :yesr:

    the true answer because aespa relevance are big in here , they bringing views, engagements and clicks. Troll & haters want their threads successfull too . Nobody really cares about lesserafim except their scandal

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