I don't understand why ive vs Aespa when it should be ive vs lesserafim.

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IVE already surpassed aespa globally and locally, aespa are not that group y'all think they are cause they're boring and don't have much appeal.

Love Dive already has more longevity than Savage will eventually surpass it's total points in sk,

also IVE's single album sales about to surpass Savage.

Next Level was a local hit and is nowhere near as big as Eleven was globally.

Also the fact that fearless lasted longer than savage on spotify is telling... MYs need to worry about that before trying to put down IVE.

Lesserafim are even bigger than aespa globally but y'all want to mention IVE who are leagues ahead of Aespa in 6 months?

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too much truth for mys to handle

wa da da also outperformed savage on spotify

not understanding why mys think aespa are on some untouchable position when they lack in many regions compared to other 4th gen ggs groups

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Fearless is Lesserafim 's debut song. Compare the performance with black mamba. You're trying to change the subject cus u know how badly it flopped despite having the sm clout.

Illusion no promo bside still out streaming fearless on spotify, also black mamba was boycotted literally by several large fandoms including sm stans and trolls but it had better longevity than huge majority of kpop songs

Illusion debut spotify streams : 800k

Fearless debut spotify streams : 600k

LOL

see how people here are dragging aespa? But yall will still continue with "omg mys are so toxic, we don't care about bla bla bla"

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I don't know why Mys think because Aespa is having a comeback that they are suddenly ahead of all other 4th gen groups.

IVE is already about to outsell Aespa last album (with an album that only has 2 songs literally 5 months after debut). They are really going around proclaiming that there is no way IVE could possibly catch out to them, which is so delusional Especially because Itzy alone is already on their asses.

Instead of album sales where any 4th Gen group can sell as much as them, Mys should worry about their digitals.

As for Le Sserafim, it's only their debut. They did well, just gotta give them time for a comeback. You can't expect them to catch up when every other 4th Gen group has already had at least two comebacks already.

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Itzy is not on Aespa's asses with sales. And all these comparison from those supporting ive about Love dive vs Savage makes so much less sense than Love Dive vs Girsl. Why? Because in an era where every group gain sales rapidly like no other, comparing albums with 3 months difference is more accurate than comparing albums with 6 months difference. If Ive release another album soon with 3 months difference or less from Girls, than that will be more accurate.

I see so many people using Love Dive as an example of Ive almost outselling Aespa when the difference in time between those two are too long, but then don't accept when Girls is used to say that Aespa will still outsell Ive despite Girls being much closer in time with Love Dive.

Oh goodness so many hate in the comments, not a fan of any groups mentioned above but people get a life, what is wrong with you

Lesserafim is not competition right now, they had a huge scandal and Fearless is nowhere near doing as good as Eleven and even less Next Level or Love Dive.

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Illusion no promo bside still out streaming fearless on spotify, also black mamba was boycotted literally by several large fandoms including sm stans and trolls but it had better longevity than huge majority of kpop songs

Illusion debut spotify streams : 800k

Fearless debut spotify streams : 600k

LOL

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Lol illusion had full day of tracking on spotify and did illusion debut on spotify??

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Itzy is not on Aespa's asses with sales. And all these comparison from those supporting ive about Love dive vs Savage makes so much less sense than Love Dive vs Girsl. Why? Because in an era where every group gain sales rapidly like no other, comparing albums with 3 months difference is more accurate than comparing albums with 6 months difference. If Ive release another album soon with 3 months difference or less from Girls, than that will be more accurate.

I see so many people using Love Dive as an example of Ive almost outselling Aespa when the difference in time between those two are too long, but then don't accept when Girls is used to say that Aespa will still outsell Ive despite Girls being much closer in time with Love Dive.

Delusion MYs need to stop saying Love Dive should compare to Girls because it just make them braindead. Stop making complicated excuses and just admit that Love Dive should be compared to Savage!

The only way to compare this is by number of comeback. Aespa have 2 comebacks before Savage first album, but MYs really have the audacity to say they should compare Savage to Eleven?? Stupid af.

But isn't part of the point with aespa that they are massive in SK? It's weird how people use a group's real or perceived lack of success in SK as a knock against them, but then don't want to give them any credit when the opposite is true. Are Ive and Lesserafim as buzzy in SK as aespa? (Honestly asking). How do they stack up on Melon?

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But isn't part of the point with aespa that they are massive in SK? It's weird how people use a group's real or perceived lack of success in SK as a knock against them, but then don't want to give them any credit when the opposite is true. Are Ive and Lesserafim as buzzy in SK as aespa? (Honestly asking). How do they stack up on Melon?

Ive had literally the longest charting debut song ever on melon surpassing even 2ne1's record, it still is charting on top20-30 as we speak... And Love Dive is on its way to surpass it. They are one of the best performing 4th gen gg in Korea right now, probably only behind aespa and g idle.

they are #1 in

youtube

spotify

bugs

#2 in flow, vibe

#3 in genie and melon

after 3 months

they are

#1 in vibe,spotify korea,youtube korea, bugs (number 1 in spotify for 50 days and i think 8 weeks in youtube)

#2 in flo

#3 in melon and genie (after 3 months)