Posts by xviper2k

Quote from chounim

Are we supposed to take scum like this ^ seriously ? Do you all not hear yourselves? I know for a fact that none of yous would be saying this horrifying shit if the occupied we're talking about wasn't Arabic and/or Muslim. Imagine saying this about Russia wiping out the entirety of Ukraine? Imagine deadass defending French colonisers?

At the person who wrote a long essay defining "war" (sandy I think), you forgot the part where this is an ongoing war between unequals, a war that's been going for 8 decades. And when I say unequals I don't even mean resources and military might but the fact there's an occupier and an occupied in this equation, do not equate the two. We do not hear your voices when Israel launches unannounced attacks, but you all have a lot to say when the occupied retaliates to ongoing aggression with aggression. We do not hear your voices when Israel commit war crimes, use internationally banned weapons, intentionally target school children. We don't hear your voices when Israel poison gazan waters and farming lands or when Israeli officials themselves refer to their state as apartheid and to Gaza as an open air prison. You all know how to speak only when the occupied retaliates, as if they're meant to sit tight and turn then other cheek until they're completely wiped out.

You all literally are here with your whole chests defending a racist, apartheid state with a long history of war crimes and breaching of human rights. You only expect Palestinians and their sympathisers to condemn themselves but you never expect or demand the same from Israelis. You yourselves are not willing to condemn their war crimes so I say fuck your selective outrage. Palestinians are not lesser human beings with less important lives and rights like you all were conditioned into believing.

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I couldn't care less whether terrorism-supporting scum takes me seriously. You are frankly beneath me. You can play the "we poor brown people" card all you want, you're just projecting your own racism onto others. I don't care what you look like or which imaginary friend you pray to, I only care that you at least have enough human decency to not excuse the brutal, targeted murders of hundreds of innocent civilians just because you cheer for the other team. You are a massive hypocrite.

Quote from lialve

I’m not talking about all Jews. The jews you are talking about were just living fine there. Shouldn’t have asked for more. Palestinians actually wanted to compromise but some Jews were entitled and didn’t agree and caused terror. It’s not an opinion but a fact.

Palestinians have NEVER wanted to compromise. Otherwise this would have been settled a looooooong time ago. That is the entire crux of the matter. Israel has given them many opportunities to settle for peace and the Palestinian authorities have rejected every single offer. They'd rather fight a decades-long losing war than swallow their pride and admit that co-existing with Israel is their only option. Meanwhile Israel gets stronger & bolder while the Palestinians remain in a never-ending, self-defeatist cycle of their own creation.

Quote from lialve

It was not Israel before and they didn’t own it. Palestinians lived there for thousands of years. You can’t take someone’s home just because your people apparently lived there long before you were born. Shouldn’t have left. It’s like your grandparents who you don’t even remember moving out from a house but then coming back and killing the new owners of a house. Like you can’t be serious rn

"Palestinians" (aka Arabs from the surrounding area) have not even existed for thousands of years. Only since 1920. Many Jews also never left. You obviously know nothing about the actual history of the region, only what other Palestinian sympathizers have told you.

Quote from lialve

It’s not even their home. Israeli people are superior right thanks for admitting.

What's not whose home? Israel has been the Jewish homeland since long before "Palestinians" ever existed.

Sure thing. I'll always be here to "admit" the most obvious of facts.

Quote from Bloom-of-Alfea

I mean Israel was the invader so they started it. It's so funny to me to see people cry for Ukraine but say "it goes both ways" for Palestine.

Ukraine is fighting off invaders. The Palestinians are the invaders here. Obvious difference is obvious.

Quote from lialve

It’s not an equal fight so don’t act like it is. Israeli people are now going through 1% of what Palestinians went through for years and years. If you’ve never spoken about that before, but only complain now, it makes you either a hypocrite or a Zionist supporter. Not to mention, that the cause of all of this, isn’t people that are actually from Palestine. They have been suffering and still are getting the blame

And whose fault is that? Maybe the Palestinians should stop picking fights with a far superior force that they have zero chance of ever beating? Maybe swallow their pride and FINALLY accept a peace deal? Ya think? Just maybe?

Comparing their outfits to the boy groups is kinda pointless, as they'll always have it easier in colder weather unless companies start dressing their girl groups in more masculine attire, which they won't do.

Quote from Kataphract

Point taken but Veto shielding for this long hasn't done well for their neighborly instincts either, has it. I wonder if Biden will move the embassy back to where it was and start maintaining a better neutrality. Or even Audit Israel's practices to have governmental investigative truth to rely on to have a politically strong argument to withhold support or other actions.

Edit: Retracted a couple statements. They were made in poor taste. Edited some parts that were left behind to ensure message flow and clarity.

Continuing: I wonder when Israel would start seeing fellow humans as fellow humans. It stands to reason that if you normalize and assimilate, there is far more prosperity to be had than bitterly fighting it out over historical or repeated grudges. Violence begets violence.

There's no need to feign neutrality; everyone knows Israel is a strategic ally of the US, and is so for good reason, even if you don't agree with all of their practices. If we even attempted to be "neutral," everyone would see right through it.

As for Israel seeing people as humans, they're not a Nazi ethnostate. 20% of the population of Israel proper is Arab. They manage to live there peacefully. It's only the neighboring Arabs who continue to engage in acts of war who beget more violence. They have too much pride to accept peace despite being woefully outgunned. Israel has offered to negotiate multiple times, all denied. What else can you resonably expect?

Quote from nana18

Nobody was raped, Hamas attacked Israel same way Israel does to Palestine, Israel crimes are far worse

Do you have any other objectively false statements you'd like to make? Because you're on a roll.

But no, Israel will not attack the same way. Their retaliation will be much, much larger in scope, because they have the far superior military capability, and the Palestinians will once again only have themselves to blame for pulling the lion's tail.

Quote from Kataphract

the US should stop veto-shielding israel for a year, see how much they can continue to act out.

As an american I think the us played sugar daddy for too long; it's time to let the leash go and see how they fare on their own for a hot minute. Being a shit neighbor is one thing but its another to stoke the flames and act the victim when you get burned for it.

Yes, let Netanyahu off his leash so he can start dropping nukes on Iran. You really didn't think that one through, did you? We already know exactly how they fare on their own; they've already defeated literally all of their neighbors in war. And that was without our help.

Quote from Fansamy

1. Sure dude. You have never been there, so you don't know.

2. Of course it is. There is no thermometer with which you can measure sexuality. You lack logic and objectivity.

1. Yeah, let's just act like oblivious idiots and pretend the Internet doesn't exist, even though we're currently using it.

2. It is not. I'm sure someone's made one such thermometer actually, and I'm willing to bet it's not administered under the tongue. You lack the logic needed to realize your goofy opinions are not objective.

Quote from Fansamy

So why do you think you can judge something is absolutely as sexual as a strip club if you have never been there? Makes no sense.

If art is entirely subjective, then so is judging whatever is 'sexual'.

1. Because we have these things called "cameras." You should look into them.

2. No, sexual content is not subjective just because art is. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic.

Quote from tokki-swag

But I just feel like I wouldn't even embarrass myself if I was these companies.

So why do you consistently embarrass yourself despite not even being one of these companies?

Quote from OnceMidzy4ever

A stripper who doesnt get naked? WHat happen to this world?

Politics. What's funny is that another city in the same state, about an hour away, has a reputation for its large number of fully nude strip clubs.

Quote from Slayurfaves

Lisa was never naked either way so this argument is useless it does seem like you have never been to a strip club

Many strippers can't get naked either. A stripper in my city isn't legally allowed to wear less than Lisa did. So what's your point?

I have never been to a strip club. Again, what's your point?

Quote from Daisy_Queen

I don't understand the desire to deliberately refer to it as something it isn't.

A burlesque dancer is a burlesque dancer.

A stripper is a stripper

You might find them similar

You might find them low class

But they're different jobs with non-interchangeable titles

If terminology didn't matter, you all wouldn't be so eager to call her a stripper while imbuing a negative connotation to it

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I never said terminology didn't matter. I just find the splitting of hairs to defend Lisa amusing. Burlesque involves striptease, does it not?

Quote from ISaidISaid

Not really. This is not your scene or a scene for someone with let’s just say backward sensibilities like you.

Sexual imagery is very much part of art. Who is making it out to be something it’s not?

Being sexual doesn’t negate something from having artistic value. The point of a strip club is not to be artistic that’s the difference.

Intention matters. You can’t say this is as sexual as a strip club so this is a strip show that’s not how this works.

People can be fully naked in a movie, that won’t make it a porno.

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But I CAN say this is as sexual as a strip club, because it absolutely is, and their shows literally involve striptease (including Lisa's.) This is not debatable. It is factual. If you want to talk about intentions, I think the tacky decor alone says everything I don't need to.

Art is entirely subjective. You can't just dictate what is art and what isn't. If you want to claim this place is art, someone else could just as easily claim a sleazy strip club is art. Neither of you would be objectively right or wrong, leading the discussion nowhere. This is why I find the "it's art" defense to be particularly lazy.

Quote from ISaidISaid

It’s like AKP users have no qualms admitting they are the problem 😭😭

Sorry some of us don’t nut at the sight of imagery of breasts.

You're supposed to. That's the entire point. I'm sorry you're trying so hard to make this place out to be something it's not and failing so badly. I think that's your problem, not me.

Le Crazy Horse

Quote from ISaidISaid

Am I supposed to be scared of boobs or something

Scared? No. You're supposed to be titillated, no pun intended. Sort of like when you're at a strip club. It's low brow.

There's nothing you can do to redeem yourself on this forum.

Quote from bartkun

if she would say yes to girl people in Korea will write oh what a cutie she is so nice adorable wow

Until she actually means it...

Quote from Slayurfaves

fail to see any similarity with what you are saying you need to be informed more about the burlesque culture in France

https://theculturetrip.com/eur…azzling-cabaret-a-history

It's not as classy as you'd like to think.

I also find all the indignation over terminology kind of funny when she did literally perform a striptease.