Posts by WhyKnock

The sad fact of tolerating a nonKPopper and making her the Senior Singer to rule over KPop for 11 long years until Huntr/x blasted off her influence.

Wonhee and Moka have been sick. I think Iroha is made of a stronger stuff. Don't know about Minju.

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Yes, she would've fit in iz*one. Chowon is an all around talent and one of the best 4th gen vocalist. She would've been one of the best vocalist in the group, and it's unfair to say if she would've fit. We just don't know, but I think her talent would have made it work.

It's too bad that happened because she lost millions of dollars and would've been very popular. Hopefully things get better for because she deserves so much more.

Not really. She will forever be inferior to Kwon Eunbi and Kim Hyungseo(Bibi).

At least she is younger than them.

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Her fans and Lightsum stans continue to think she could have fit into Izone without the rigging. I wonder what AKP thinks? Could she have fit into Izone?

In one word, yes.

I think she is now trying to become like Kwon Eunbi, not giving an attention to the members now everyone knows the group is done.

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Please don't give hybe more ideas

It is said that in plave concerts, actual dancers make the movements, with the character's faces put on them.

Hybe will let its trainees dance in BTS' image if it goes that far.

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They can always change the choreo easier when they get older. There are hong kong singers doing tours when they are 60.

That is why soloists last longer. They have plenty of songs to sing when they get older. Dance groups do not have such luxury

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They can simply not dance to the songs, they have already done performances while sitting down that's always an option

Nothing much they can do about enlistment, hybe did try it's best to get them out of the enlistment circus

Nothing? If Hybe had relocated to the overseas they would move out of Korea and never return there again and avoid all that, and let the Korean fans cringe

Saja Boys will never enlist. The people who sang it are all Americans.

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By the time they reach their 50s, we might be in a nightmarish scenario such as AI holograms dancing on stage, perhaps being sung by AI clones of their younger voices too, or real humans dancing whilst getting the faces of the members deepfaked onto them in real time through drone carried projectors.

Already happening. Plave concerts are like that

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"All idols grow old. They won't be able to perform their biggest hits when they turn, say, 45."

Except Lee Jieun.

She is not a dancing idol

And she no longer performs her more demanding songs sung when she was younger

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that is true not of idols but a lot of musicians

I can't remember who it was but celine dion or kelly clarkson who struggled to perform some of their earlier stuff as they got older

Even Lee Jieun is not performing her older songs which are more demanding, sticking with the whispering style of songs post 2020

Singers' ability get weak as time goes on. And that phenomenon is more pronounced for dancing acts

All these people who had argued for a 'longer career' for BTS are thoroughly debunked now Huntr/x and Saja Boys have redefined the paradigm of KPop. I have already written a few times that IU is finished since her style of music received a fatal blow.

Longer career for a dancing act is simply laughable.

I have said a few times that the next round of concert for BTS will be its last for a very long time, just like this round of BlackPink concert would be the last for quite a long time as the members begin to look for their own interests.

Jang Woohyuk of H.O.T, whose real estate investment was rather successful, seems to be the one organizing this round of H.O.T concert.

But, the reported setlist is such that there would be only 3 songs they would sing together, and each of the 5 members will sing at least 2 solo songs. All of them did have solo albums before. Their songs to teenage fans do not resonate anymore, and , frankly speaking, in late 40s they are too old to dance their hit numbers.

I have heard somewhere that even though Coldplay had the biggest concert after Taylor Swift, this round of tour will be its last since it is becoming too much for them, They are 47-48 years old.

Did those who failed arithmetic seriously think that BTS would be performing their hits , dancing, when they turn 48?

All idols grow old. They won't be able to perform their biggest hits when they turn, say, 45.

BTS missing their best years is a blow they would NEVER recover. Never. To placate the Korean fans, who consist maybe 5% of their world fans.

And it was in vain, after all, since Netflix will be calling the shots in KPop from now on.

it is a curse

It is like being relegated to the back room

If JYP had accepted Minyoung instead of Momo in Sixteen, she would have been able to sing Golden since she was comparable to Yuju(GFriend) in terms of singing

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Would you call it a... takedown?

ㅡMore like annihilation since other than IU herself who can't sing the high notes, everyone who had followed her tradition all went over to Golden

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You're ignorant to think that anything can replace the traditional music of Korea and it borders on racism because you suggest that the Artists you mention represent Korean Music or Korean Traditional Music.

It's no wonder why Koreans think Non-Koreans are fools because based from your post you lack the understanding of a culture that is far superior to the one you represent.

Both Golden and Soda Pop were produced by Korean-Americans and Korean-Canadians, those who left Korea and not part of the local tradition

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So what are the differences between traditional Korean and trot? And Western singing?

The old style of Korean chants, followed by people such as Song Sohee, became irrelevant when Japan began to rule Korea in around 1910.

But, a 'Korean' style of singing was developed in 1970s, against the mainstream trot style copied from Japan, had become dominant in 1970s, 1980s and early 1990s until Seo Taeji made them irrelevant. IU revived such style and this is the end of the Restoration of the local style.

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shocking!

Weapons and infrastructure that is 40 years older than that of the opponent doesn't stand a chance.

What a marvelous observation!

Dumb comparison with music, though.

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Actually the Crimean War, 1856, was fought not much differently from the Napoleonic wars.

And IU did reintroduce a earlier 1990s ballad in 2017

Because of her, and her only, the old style still continued till at least about late 2024

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Wait ... trot isn't traditional Korean singing style?

Trot comes from the Japanese Enka style.

I compared BTS and IU to Napoleon and Wellington.

Warfare in 1850s were little different from warfare in 1810s, although the introduction of railroads did change things a bit.

Then the US civil war broke out in 1861, and although the South had better generalship, it had weaker infrastructure.

Also, Richard Gatling invented the Gatling machine gun. Although he was born in South Carolina, he moved to the midwest and at the time the war broke out he was living in Indiana, ruled by the North.

Warfare completely changed by railroads and machine guns.

Wellington would not have done so well against a typical American Civil War general. Wellington's squares would have been blasted off by machine guns.

From then, until the end of WW2, wars were railroad wars. Key rail junctions often became bitter battlegrounds.

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Golden put an end to the traditional way of singing in Korea, a tectonic change.

IU came back again and again because she was the last of the traditional Korean singing style, not affected by trot, recreating ballads from late 1980s and early 1990s before Seotaiji.

But, unlike 2014 when she completely overturned the existing structure of KPop and restored the old order as if nothing had happened, and completely wiped out the 2nd genration off the table (She had a greater success among the 3rd gen, despite of being a 2nd gen singer), this time those who grew up listening her style of songs are now listening to trot, and all of her allies have gone over to Golden since it is the newest hot thing.

I think from now on all Kpop songs will be variations of Golden or Saja boys songs. Ending IU's style of older songs, emphasizing pure vocals, and introducing the new style KPop Demon Hunters introduced.

Because of IU, all KPop acts had to at least maintain some degree of older style singing. Golden has ended that forever.

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Is Hana a k-pop adjacent group? (like NiziU, INI, JO1, AndTeam, ME:I, NEXZ, NCT Wish etc)

No . It was formed as a counter against KPop, using a Japanese producer with some Korean background and using a Korean trainee who reportedly trainged at YG

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It's because Japan has excellent DRM. Their artists get paid and make a living. The Japanese music industry is the last one on earth that isn't a flaming mess. They control everything they can to make sure their content is on lock and rightfully so.

And it is hard for haphazard Korean management to beat that