Navis and Shaman are joining their power
that aside, Supernova is fresh and unique and clearly experimental song. it has addictive part (ah oh ay) that stuck in your head. Armageddon does not.
Navis and Shaman are joining their power
that aside, Supernova is fresh and unique and clearly experimental song. it has addictive part (ah oh ay) that stuck in your head. Armageddon does not.
Random comment but I just want to say I like Ive. I keep Off The Record and Either Way on repeat in my playlist. Ive, NJ, and Aespa are definitely the big three of kpop GGs today.
Tuesday or not even groups are finding it hard to debut on Spotify with their kr releases so it's still an achievement.
It's actually getting consecutive +1M streams and today that charted there, overall I think it's a good number.
True,true, true. especially now we can leave behind allegation of NJ payola or sudden autoplay in Spotify since both haters and supporter agree NJ has lost all support from Hybe. these are all organic , babeh .
and i just found out, Yojiro Noda, lead vocalist Radwimps has tweeted his addiction to NJ new songs. Yoasobi, Radwimps, all my favs have intertwined with NJ. oh, my heart .
Thank you for your concern. NJ is still doing fine with or without Spotify chart. If you still salty about them, take a shower and cool your head .
Display Moreof course only very dumb and stupid people would think the contrary
korea economy was good before bts debut
it was good when bts where in military
and it will be good the day they disband
until korea have samsung they have to worry to have, they bring much more to korea economy than bts or kpop
Every time I heard I-Army said "nobody knew Korea before BTS" or "BTS covered half Korean economy", I wonder the level of education these fans have. Kpop along with kdrama/kmovie has boost Korean tourism and export like cosmetic, food, etc, but to say it's all started with BTS is an exaggeration.
miss min >>>>>>>>>>>>> kpop 😌
No, this is just the beginning of the end, people positive like this are not looking at the full picture, how sweet and supernatural are still the good part, they still have the embers of hybe support, the attention and good faith of everyone in kpop and the trendy concept in the industry. When the next trendy concept comes and newjeans is still releasing the same concept mhj keeps coping from japan groups from the 2000s with their tired tiktok bait music, the situation will be way worse.
the last two albums are clearly from 80s.
ditto is y2k (2000s), but NJ debut concept was basically 90s R&B baby.
they have different sound and era each comeback. not the same concept.
and japan group from 2000 were akb48 and their sisters. clearly not NJ were based on.
You're deliberately avoiding my main point. I don't care about Bang PD or the directors. I believe BTS's success isn't due to their skills since they still can't duplicate it.
My point is that you're blaming Hybe's reliance on BTS and the 70% revenue share from BTS, when any company with BTS would show similar profit performance. This is a group that literally outsells the whole big 3.
This fact is not a reflection on the shortcomings of Hybe’s directors. BTS is just an anomaly
The math is not mathing, and how BTS is the main point here?
No, any PARENT COMPANY like Hybe should not rely 70% of their revenue on SINGLE SUBSIDIARY (BIGHIT). it IS a reflection of the shortcoming of Hybe directors. They should at least try to reduce dependence on Bighit or you will see BTS work 10x harder next year so Hybe can cover Skuter's debt.
not single clue about the article. but patiently waiting.
Ceo of pledis is producer, Bang Pd is producer.
park ji won is ceo of gaming part of the hybe business,
ceo of belab is kim tae ho, is a marketing , in charge of Weverse and digital flatform. as far as weverse keep successful and fan keep engaging, it is already a big win for hybe.
so I dont see the term “No experience in entertainment industry” justify at all.
weverse and koz in negative profit last year.
Belift decreased in profit after acquisition
it's not stupid, it's the whole point. You are basically confirming the OP that Hybe is "good" not because it's a good company with PJW/BSH as the lead, it is because of BTS popularity. A parent company which rely 70% of their whole revenue to single subsidiary is not a sign of healthy company.
It's not really that hard to analyse. Since Ador released separate single albums within extremely short span, it is clearly will affect buying decision for fans. Some fans are waiting for SN album, while some will not paid more for new ones. NJ lost majority of hybe stans for sure are affecting Spotify streaming, since US and Indonesia (army largest fan base) are mostly Spotify user. But can this be called catastrophe if the reason of low in spotify streaming only due to "MHJ boycott", irrelevance with the songs quality itself ?
And please don't give credit as if hybe giving support to them. last two albums and fan meeting are all under Ador management work before and during the feud. PJW himself also stated that Hybe had no involvement on planning for fan meetings or such.
No, it just proves how much a big corporation like hybe can manipulate the industry and create success out of nothing, way more success than a group will get by itself. If mhj never fumbled with hybe, newjeans would still be in the same ascending trajectory, they were just as popular as hybe money allowed them to be, they were nothing special actually.
Half full or half empty. Dude, it's 1.5m copies in a month. It's impressive considering they lose their support over childish army, and it still has full support from GP. If NJ success only depends on Hybe mercy, they should have been ended up like 50/50. But they are not. There should be something that Ador done right or NJ is that special.
the importance of a well developed and stable fandom to the longevity of idol careers?
Or, were they just a trend and are no longer trendy?
NJ is only 2 year old GG. And they still have high number of sales among other kpop group despite all drama. Either they have stable fandom or they just that good.
And NJ is still everywhere.
like in an engineering firm, surprisingly, the directors has no experience in engineering world. but they have experienced in working with government and connections, thats how we got the job.
seriously, what the age of these people in this forum, sometimes I feels like they know nothing about how the world out there works rather than their little delusional imagination.
This is so far from truth and the world doesn't work that way. As person who works in engineering firm, I beg you differ . Winning a tender is not the same with running a project and trying to keep cost under budget if you don't know well about what the hell you are running.
5 most profit cpy in the world in 2023 (mostly engineering)and their CEO background
1. Saudi Aramco : petroleum engineer
2. Apple : industrial engineer
3. berkshire : Warren buffet invested since child
4.microsoft : electrical engineer
5. alphabet (Google) : metallurgy engineer
And if PJW is really good at connection/business, why Nexon is still failing despite he worked since graduated over there. And don't forget Theranos whom the CEO decided to drop out without finishing her chemical engineering degree (not even pass a year in college) and only use her connection skills in government to build business in medicine field (she didn't even know how blood analysis technology works).
Also,MHJ is known for keep the production cost low while giving high profit cost ratio. le Serra and NJ has the same debut budget, but Ador gave more revenue than source despite both received the same privilege as "under Hybe groups". Illit beat NJ EP debut sales by 20K copies higher, but that's with Illit debut budget 10x NJ budget. NJ debut EP also still higher than TWS despite BG normally has bigger kpop market.
So yes,I still do believe whatever your job is, you need to have competency of your industry if you want to make profit. Or you can rely on the face of your idols.
While their revenue is biggest than other big 3, their profit is not. And remember 70% of their revenue coming from single source, BTS.
And since the CEO has track record failing his previous company, and the way he handled Ador issue, probably shareholders need to start to be worried about the future of this company.
And again, Hybe successful has never been due to hybe good business strategy, it's all work of BTS fandom. They need to find the next BTS if they want to keep promoting their new group.