Posts by Nevaeh14

If HYBE half asses it when it comes to playlisting and geffen doesn't get them radio deals, they might as well not even bother in the US

Manon is gorgeous my god

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Now that is news to me. I don't keep track of Spotify's data trends or its regional growth, but that does make a lot of sense.

The point about Rihanna is interesting too. I'm curious what drives those peaks.

Yea, it's been widely reported by Billboard and other music outlets that people prefer to listen to catalog music (basically albums older than 18 months) than new music.

Back in July, Michael Jackson gained over a billion streams in the US alone. In 2023

It's a weird phenomenon

BlackPink were on tour and Spotify in Asia especially SEA is rapidly growing

This isn't just a BP thing though. There are artists who are reaching new peaks every year despite not releasing anything in years (Rihanna)

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As discussed earlier, even with youtubes growth in korea and going by streaming data available, its still not enough to make up for melons loss and the market share between the other domestic services havent really changed much to explain the difference, and its down across all services in korea youtube included

In a way korea is years ahead of any other country when it comes to digital music services. They were already full in on digital years before the rest of the world started caching on. Melon was launched in 2004 and there were other services before that, by the time spotify was launched in 2008 (which was sweden only to begin with) there were already 5+ competing services in korea. So i guess it could very well be they've already reached the peak so to say.

Are there certain demos or genres in Korea that haven't embraced streaming?

I ask because a big reason why the US is seeing big increases in streaming despite popular genres like hip hip showing signs of decline is because country music fans have finally embraced streaming (as evidenced by the recent country domination of the hot 100) and mexican/latin music has finally been let out of the dungeon and is more readily available

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"the rules are playing a role but sales and radio and YouTube views are way down as well, that’s contributing to it." from a charts acc

Nobody buys music anymore or listens to the radio outside of work spaces but since they still carry weight on the hot 100, the points have dropped

If Billboard made streaming even more valuable and replaced Youtube with Tik Tok points would go back up significantly

World wide streaming is up 22% from last year according to Luminate

Korea may just be an outlier in that they're consuming less music than before

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In the world you mean, Billboard Hot 100 #1 is now reaching a new record for lowest points for top spot.

The low points are the direct result of Billboard altering their formula every couple months and not because people are listening to music less

Consumption is up in the US and in many parts of the world. Spotify shows this. You need at least 1.1m streams to enter global spotify. 2 years ago, 800k was good enough

I don't think Koreans are consuming less music. I just think they're abandoning Melon for other apps. I'm sure if Youtube music didn't exist, ULs would still be huge

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HER, she is the most underrated by far

She's got a bright future on onlyfans if this K-pop stuff doesn't work out

It's a shame tbh

Despite all the success it's hard not to feel like there was still a lot of room to grow. Especially in America

Disbanding without a top 10 hit just doesn't feel right

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A airplay-dominated chart isn't the only way to measure people are listening to Stray Kids' music. They are the second-longest charting K-pop Act on Spotify US Top Artist and were already the 3rd most streamed K-pop group in 2023 even ahead of their first comeback, with catalog only.

What's up with this superior complex people think only the groups they like are listened

Wrong. Streaming far outweighs both sales and radio

The current #98 song on the hot 100 has 20.7m radio and 2m streams

The current #33 on the hot 100 has 12m streams and 0.8m radio

All SKZ need is a measly 4m streams to chart and yet can't do it. I wonder why

The bit about her debuting later sounds like damage control

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Youtube is still a passive platform for music streaming. It has grown fast because it was bundled with YT premium for watching videos without ads

Melon still has sizable audience size for a domestic music streaming service, and is still bigger than Genie, Vibe, bugs all added

Every streaming service is passive regardless if it's music or movies/tv shows. Netflix is the king of passive streaming but no one will argue their position as top dog

Melon should be treated like itunes back when Spotify and Apple Music overtook them; supplementary material but it wasn't the main focus

Blackpink is 1 of 3 groups to chart at least 1 song on the hot 100 to go alongside their #1 album

Skz are selling 200K+ but can't see the hot 100 to save their lives

Blinks in the US are buying and actually listening to the music instead of just bulk buying and poluting oceans

Pretty sure Youtube already overtook Melon

For those that don't know. A site called 'Kworb' shows you daily and weekly youtube data. There's no reason to still hold Melon on a pedestal when the GP are abandoning it

Even though I was meh on Drama, I'm happy to see it's doing well on Spotify so far

But seriously. How did Spicy only spend 1 day on Global spotify? That's some nugu shit

Releasing 4546321 versions of the same album

Artists in the west are starting to do it too

For example: Taylor Swift with just 1 version was plateauing around the 700k-800k mark with physicals AND streaming combined. After releasing 5+ different colored vinyls and limited edition CDs, she's now doing over a million in just physicals...

Source/Hybe need to get their shit together. The lack of playlisting on Spotify and Apple Music is criminal

This could be their biggest song ever and they're doing nothing

I really like 'You' but overall I'm underwhelmed

Step down from My World imo. It doesn't have a 'Im Unhappy or Thirsty' which kept me coming back and revisiting the album

While Aespa has the edge in touring I'm not gonna use it to put them above LSF. The Rolling Stones have better touring than 99% of current popular artists but nobody actually thinks they're more popular now do they?

As far as physical sales go, nobody outside of chart obsessed fans in parasocial relationships actually buy music in 2023. That's all I'll say

If LSF isn't bigger now, it's only a matter of time. I think their music is more appealing and HYBE is just bigger, has more connections and just better at promoting than SM

I'd be embarrassed to stan a group with a name like that