Posts by plasticrose

let them be. someone needs to investigate ive's charting instead.

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Yes, Boa and her 2009 all-English album seeking Western validation started these stupid decisions almost 13 years later!!

fair comparison /s

groups like bts and twice have made stupid decisions like promoting english songs. Kpop has not been the same ever since.

Yes I agree it's a catastrophe because how the hell would you not include wallflower in the setlist? It is easily twice's best bside.

update: not sold out.

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It was deleted for a reason.

That's a reach. But i've seen that hating fuels ur life. You are just not right on this one.

I'm expecting 2 million on gaon. I wonder if they can do it.

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Lol rich kids means upper middle class as well. Are so you that removed from reality that you only consider billionaires rich. If even your GRANDFATHER was in law you’re rich. Period.

But anyway weird of you to focus on the rich part the point was lots of children of influential people in law enforcement do a lot of rebellious things. It doesn’t mean jack. Lol.

i still think u watch too many tvshows because that's a weird stereotype you've got there.

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It’s usually kids from such family that like to rebel have you never met anyone rich

rose family is not that rich rich. Maybe u watch too many movies idk.

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I made a detailed post last night documenting BTS's radio since 2017. They have indeed had songs that received a large share of airplay and somehow this has been written out of history by fans. It's crazy how people have forgotten this/never documented it. I think a lot of the radio-educated ARMYs left the fandom post-Dyna/Butter because the discourse on Twitter got too toxic. So now we have people who were never there, or weren't paying attention, telling the story of BTS & radio, in some cases erasing the successes BTS *has* had there. People literally no longer know what going for adds or impact dates means...when I first encountered ARMY, I was impressed how knowledgable they were on these topics, sigh.

Anyway.

Those same songs that did well at radio also did well with playlisting. It really comes down to whether BH or Columbia was piloting the release.

We're in the dungeon era now with Geffen, who probably were hired for extremely limited catalog services and basic global distro at best for BTS for the next few years.

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Changes were made in 2020. Yeah, it wasn't always like this. There's too much blocking now for kpop.

Should korean songs be getting playlisting? ask yourself that. If there is a playlist for a certain mood, would anyone want to listen to korean song when they don't understand lyrics? This is how it is with kpop playlisting.

So, it's interesting that the language barrier is the biggest obstacle bts/kpop have to go toe to toe with western artists and present in all of complaints. There is a growing disdain from fans that newjeans/any kpop group can get the same playlisting as bts if they have enough popularity. The bts solos are unable to get same playlisting because they are unproven and didn't do that well. But what i'm seeing now is Jimin is getting everything newjeans got.

Bts has the highest playlist reach for a kpop group partly due to their english songs. Only when compared to other western artists, they look like they get very less for the streams they get from fans. They have only 3-4 kidzbop songs which are all very similar that are worth getting playlisted. They can't be at the level of western artists with that. Even spanish artists get more playlisting because there is lot of audience for that

So basically, radio and playlisting is shit for every kpop group not just bts compared to others. It doesn't sit right for fans because "bts is bigger than kpop" for them.

do you think bts deserve more radio and playlisting because they get more/similar number of streams from devoted fans?

BTS | Spotify Analytics | Songstats

It's streams are so high and so stable. WOW. It's also trending on tiktok as well. I'm surprised myself.

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They literally made it near impossible for K-pop to chart high again on Hot 100. Charting songs out there are driven by radio plays, how the hell are you supposed to achieve that without being a western artist? There's no way now. Say bbye

that's not true. Week 1, kpop fans can go all out as always.

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oh thank god. a new record *but* still not pretty off from taylor's 1>38, only 7 spots. go army!!

yeah it's not bad at all. the combined streams from english version saved him so much.

It's good if we don't compare with others. They can build on this. They need to show improvement and surpass their peak after like.

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Oh I'm sure BP is doing well but that's a different point from OP being right. I thought Blinks don't claim OP but it seems he still has his cult, must feel nice

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OP is talking about HOT 100, why are you bringing tour? BP's longevity on HOT 100 have been surpassed by NJs and possibly 5050 soon.

you are proving op right more and more. bp is doing well on charts including hot 100.

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I wanna know now, why did the U.S somewhat gladly accept BTS at first???

Like they never were truly accepted, but the U.S was giving them awards, special records, and it seemed like they was finally getting inside the music industry, even if it wasn't by a big amount.

But all of a sudden since last year, its like they was like "ard y'all done now, lets move on to someone or something else"... hmmm...

One of my guesses is, once BTS didn't sign with a American label and allow the U.S music industry to use them, they decided to blacklist BTS somewhat, which is why this scandalous stuff is becoming more apparent.

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i'm sure about this. They ruined it for themselves with butter blocking olivia rodrigo for 10 weeks.

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I'd accept your point if they stopped relying so heavily on radio/iHeart

It's not a perfect chart. U can use spotify or apple music if u want just charts for streaming.

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they should never take business advice from AKP users

"Stop buying albums, that's not allowed. And stay in your place Koreans"

that's a very black and white way of thinking. If buying albums was really stopped, then jimin would never get that no.1. Infact, the buying of album is not stopped. The money goes into artists pockets so the crying is only for sales not being reflected on chart.

billboard themselves have a responsibility to reflect true popularity like every other chart in other countries. u might know a korean chart called melon? they made a lot of changes too because users kept leaving and stopped using complaining manipulation by fandoms. Charts change a lot of their rules, it's nothing new. Billboard is transitioning more and more towards streaming era.