Posts by trollacc

Quote from Xifo

It has more to do with general popularity of your ex group...

That's a huge factor but it can't carry you, if that's all you have it will be a state of constant decline over time. If all you have is the pre-existing fanbase of your previous group without any influx of new fans the solo run will have an expiry date. I think this has been seen time and time again. Sadly I think we are seeing some of this with the IZ*ONE solos, as much as I love all of them. Across the board their sales seem to be declining, although even the declined sales can still be considered very good and more than enough to keep the solo career going for a long time.

Of course if you are looking at short term success this might even be THE most important factor.

One interesting note is that the solos of group members seem to do much better while the group is still active, before disbandment. This makes perfect sense since you have a huge fanbase supporting you while a large portion of those fans might move on to stanning other groups after disbandment.

The real test is having a successful solo career for years, long after your previous group has disbanded. Very few succeed at this and it requires something special.

The competition is brutal for solos, you really have to stand out somehow. Even someone like Kwon Eunbi who has literally everything a solo needs is only doing 'ok' at best, just enough to keep going and for the company to keep investing. The vast majority of solos (specifically the ones of idol group members) suffer from constantly declining sales and just fade out after the initial hype.

Quote from stan12345

They are not giving a rookie artist of the year, 99% sure of that. BTS will get it as judges will most likely take into account cultural impact of an act and their music and BTS are unrivalled in that.

Even though not always consistently Artist of the year does/should extend beyond music/kpop fandoms, which is really rewarded with song and album of the year.

I do have to agree, ArOTY is a long shot for IVE. The case for SOTY, however, is very strong at MAMA due to the 20% Spotify criteria so that's what I'm hopeful for. There are other shows that will surely give it to Tomboy, eg. Genie Music Awards.

Another predictions acc with pretty much the same numbers

IVE is #1 for both ArOTY and SOTY but it's not a big gap in either so it's entirely possible they get nothing

Quote from Jasmine_Waters

OP you know damn well Stray Kids did not sell more than BTS this year.

Didn't Stray Kids MAXIDENT sell about 2.5M in October? That would make for 3.6-3.7M total sales in 2022. Not sure if I'm missing something or how the prediction has calculated the score tbh.

EDIT: I have no idea what I'm talking about, poster above does though

I fear this is where the big company influence will come in and it will go to one of #2-4, especially since the score gap isn't that big in the top 4.

Expect the worst so you won't be disappointed

I love this song and her vocals so much

Quote from xiaotingskeep1r

I find her version to be a little soft compared to Yujins and Wonyoungs. But I know diveland won't really agree with me LOL I think she has a fantastic voice I just don't think it fits this chorus as well

I can actually see/hear the soft argument now that you mention it, even as a big Liz bias. I do find her chorus VERY pleasant to listen to but not sure how it would go with the song as a whole. Once again I'm reminded it's good we sort of have 2 main vocals, they excel at completely different things.

Quote from BlackpinkHouse

The bigger travesty of this song, one of the things that's keeping me from giving it a 10, is that Leeseo isnt given another verse.

Leeseo has a really nice voice, especially love her lower register parts. People are kinda sleeping on her vocals just because her technique and range is not among the best in the group. She's so young so we'll surely see further improvement there. She definitely adds a lot to the group as a whole.

Love her parts in My Satisfaction

So this one is guaranteed for Proof if it's eligible, else it's between SVT and BP ?

It did seem pretty damn crazy to exclude physical sales for AOTY so this had me confused.

Quote from desdesdes

DIVES! HERE, LIZ IS FINALLY SINGING MANY PARTS

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The Liz chorus I always hoped for.. it's so beautiful

Quote from killthisfenty

They will not. Maybe the judge but overall they’re behind some many artists if nxde counted to the tracking year they could’ve

This is the key difference, apart from the initial physical sales Nxde falls out of the tracking period. If it had been released earlier they would be a strong contender.

But it's 40% judges so MNET will probably do whatever they want. Watch IVE and Idle win zero daesangs since they're not from a big company

Am I crazy for thinking both ArOTY and SOTY favors IVE / Love Dive?

IVE has 3 releases totalling 2.4M+ sales so they are actually extremely strong in the 30% physical when you add up them up. The 30% digital should be completely favoring IVE as well since all the releases even did quite ok on Spotify and obviously they should have completely dominated the accumulated K-digital in the tracking period.

As for SOTY it has to be Love Dive or TOMBOY, nothing else should be even close with these criteria. K-charts are virtually identical at this point, LD just snatched away the #1 spot for Circle Annual and will be taking Melon Annual #1 within a few weeks but they are more or less equal at this point. However, didn't Love Dive do quite a bit better on Spotify than Tomboy? That's 20% of the score.

After 1 listen. I am completely shook, blown away and speechless.

Quote from vzal

Yena and Sunmi should be in the Best Female Artist category instead of Miyeon and Seulgi.

Yena got a top 10 hit + good album sales while MY and SG struggled to even chart in the top 100.

Heart Burn is no hit but it did way better than Drive and 28 Reasons.

I had this same thought when I saw the nominees - really strange that Yena isn't nominated she did insanely well.

It's a real shame only 1 ROTY award will be given. Many of those groups would have easily been ROTY any other year. 2022 really is the craziest year ever for debuts. To be honest IVE/NewJeans should be up there nominated for Best Female Artist but I guess this is the MAMA policy.

here, this will cheer you up

Blue Flame for now

Antifragile might sneak up to #1 over time it's quite addictive

They sound sooo good, especially Liz sounds heavenly like always.

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