Hard time for reddit
There post has a lot of stupid comments but this one below might be the best one.
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Imagine posting this not understand what the word objectively means and saying people are trying to gaslight while writing a post so factually wrong.
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HYBE, I truly have to give you a standing ovation for this one. I am completely blown away by your consistent inability to make a public statement that doesn't contradict the fundamental reasons for why NewJeans is walking out the door and letting everyone know how sweet it tastes.
Your leader, that narcissistic face blind clout chaser, BSH, has accused MHJ of corporate sabotage, insubordination and called her EVIL, but you're somehow open to someone you've filed A CRIMINAL CASE AGAINST serving as a producer?
Make it make sense, HYBE. If MHJ was guilty of everything you claimed in April, and it wasn't all just a bunch of smoke and mirrors to force out a dissenting voice who wouldn't submit to your toxic culture and allow you to steal her work, you would NEVER make any concessions.
HYBE really look like that desperate toxic ex, refusing to let go of a relationship THEY sabotaged.
Let it go, HYBE. At least have some dignity at the end
Yeah the whole 26page doc doesn't really stand up.
The Source music video leak is worse imo. These 2 lines from the doc "were not the ones who posted or distributed these videos" and "that we are making every effort to resolve the issue of these videos, photos, and other information being exposed to the public without authorization." Look Dispatch got it from somewhere they either stole it or got it given to them by Hybe as they own it. If Dispatch stole it or got an inside leak without Hybe;s knowledge then regardless of the members Hybe and Ador should act on that the moment it was put up, they didn't fully outside of Youtube. So either they didn't care to get them taken down fully on social and the Dispatch site or leak it themselves. Ador made Hybe aware about the leak on 23rd July only on November 19th did they ask Dispatch how they got it the NJs lawyer will have a field day with that one.
This is the last verbal warning for everybody.
I will start issuing WP's for it.
I was being nice because I honestly feel for NJ, but please also hold yourselves accountable.
I back this, the past 2 weeks has been messy. I hate to sound like the forum police but many threads being made, I would even add the Rose comments thread to this one.
Public opinion doesn't matter. Legal opinion does. I'd rather not have public opinion and be in debt for 20yrs owing some shitty agency my IP rights and the next 20yrs of paychecks. Violating contract to get a early termination has a hefty fee especially entertainment industry contracts it likely will cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions. And I highly doubt these members have that kind of money yet to afford it
I mean when it comes to the court case against Hybe yeah it won't matter but if they lose as in they can leave but have to pay the debt off, public opinion absolutely matters. Biggest GP in korean, they still have a major fanbase and if the can move to another company, the company don't have to pay that debt it's an easy win even if they have to change the name. I actually think outside of maybe JYP cause they have a relationship with Hybe I think most companies would absolutely risk signing them. Even if that doesn't happen and it might be tough to find a company as Epyon-556 said if the old 50/50 can find a company NewJeans even under a new name will have no issues.
Display MoreMy signature makes nobody dislike anyone but perhaps me lmao
Sorry but you'll learn that, nobody actually needs a reason to dislike anyone. I was hated by someone I barely even spoke to because I was showing results. I was shocked when a little birdie told me I was disliked?? People will dislike you simply because you are dulling their shine. And especially in K-pop it is a very competitive environment so people already disliked BTS for taking the spotlight lmao.
Why do you think kpop stans can't WAIT for them to disband? I'm not out their wishing disbandment on their faves but look at them lmao.
They dont need my signature to throw a stone.
Also a little tit for tat,
a lot of the phrases army use now were used against them so you cannot say it's because army mention paving the way that people started hating BTS. It wasn't the start at all.
The paving the way debate did not start from army.
2nd gen stans were the first ones to use "paving the way" because they were trying to force BTS and the fandom to acknowledge 2nd gen.
"BTS wouldn't have achieved this if not for BOA, Rain,Psy" was their argument. It was to discredit BTS achievements.
I remember there was an ARMY chart account that made a simple mistake in their title on twitter and they were bombarded with replies saying how armys do not respect 2nd gen when 2nd gen is the reason bts is popular.
It was the classic case of K-pop Stan's trying to insert themselves, taking credit for bts' small (at the time) achievements.
Even when army's told them 2nd gen groups and their respective companies admitted to failure in cracking the western world.
But BTS did it.
They continued their debate on how much 2nd gen influenced BTS rise in the US. They started to use Psy in their arguments. Because BTS had surpassed their faves early on the album charts. All that was left was the hot 100.
Then Psy came out and explained that while he achieved success, his success was short lived and that it is different from what BTS is doing i.e actually building a fanbase.
Now, bts' success has made it easier for the K-pop industry to perform in western countries so you can see how the ball has rolled into the park of ARMYs aye?
Sorry but I can't get past the "Sorry but you'll learn that". Don't talk to people that way it's rude, the arrogance to down to people that way. I understand your signature fully now.
And yes I know that signature is from you that is the point I was making. You're not the only one to share this opinion. Im sorry dont think saying "but while watching other groups makes me think anyone can become an idol' is disrespectful to other groups and make them want to come after you and your favs I got bad news for you.
As for the rest I don't care who started the paved the way stuff but I know how it's used by many. You say it was started here I've posts say it was by Army to counter Big Bangs comeback which started the whole Army vs 2nd gen stuff. Both sides can point fingers on that one.
Look I said in my post BTS are one of if not the main reason kpop is as popular in the west. You don't need to go in to that.
Im not an Army but to suggest they're not one of the biggest music acts in the world is weird, they clearly are. They also helped kpop become more mainstream to suggest they didn't is also not true. They sold out Wembley that is beyond impressive, I went to that show it was phenomenal.
That being said OP your signature is exactly why kpop fans have grown to dislike the boys and the fanbase. You can praise BTS and not put down other groups which is why people hate the paved the way stuff its mainly used as a counter to other groups.
Yeah it's interesting isn't it, kpopthoughts and kpopuncensored both have threads and are largely negative against Hybe. However that main r/kpop sub megathread is still hanging on to Hybe.
Great observation, they usually always had so much to say when it was a YG or SM group who were involved in a controversy. So many of them acted holier than thou and were the first to judge and literally were also one of the first to update on negative news when it was about other idols who did mistakes (mostly just to weaponize it for fanwars)… now they went mia…
Their hostility on this site has also drove many users away as well … like the guilds are literally dead! You couldn’t celebrate your faves achievements without one of them feeling the need to tell us it’s somehow contributed to BTS.
I know many Armys are not like that and I can understand how it feels when your fandom constantly gets called out, but the reality is many fandoms felt victimized by them or at least felt like their faves were…
On twitter NJ is currently their new nemesis and especially here, I do not understand why they are so invested in this. This isn’t even remotely or slightly about BTS, but they more invested than Illit or LSFM fans.
I issue I have is the lack of accountability yes most are good dare I say 95% are great but that 5% just makes kpop less fun. You always get the well every fanbase is like this but I think even the good ones don't get just how big that 5% is. The Army is only really behind Taylor Swift in fans of an entertainer so 5% is still 100 of thousands of fans. It might been Yama in one of the mega threads posted a list of all the fanbases gone to 'war' with Army in the last 10 years, its from Big Bang fans to Exo fans to Blinks to Bunnies and many more. I remember 2 years ago maybe when Big Bang made that sort of comeback/final song it was the biggest song in Korea that year, this forum had a post and well sure you can guess what happened. We can't celebrate a legendary group like Big Bang without this nonsense.
I think the issue is the mocking of her accent, which is a bit racist. Im all for jokes like yeah make fun of the picture bit like they did with Bang PD weeks ago. But mocking her accent isn't great, Im sure they got in trouble not so long ago for mocking another asian accent as well.
every kpop subreddits:
It's been so toxic, I didn't think it could get worse, the bar keeps on lowering. They spent a lot of the megathread talking down the main r/korea sub about the fact they have post being critical of Hybe saying its all with misinformation which is ironic because of half that thread is screenshots of sniper21.
This below is the most recent post from the megathread. Even though she is from another country, clearly nervous Hanni getting a name wrong shows she is a bad person. Post like this are insane and somehow the replies are worse.
QuoteHanni forgetting or mispronouncing Kim Joo-Young’s name, whether intentional or not, tells me a lot about her character. Her exaggerated reaction- panicking, waving her arms, and apologising in a frightened tone for such a minor mistake is giving victim mindset, especially in this context. She doesn’t care enough to get it right and it can be quite insulting to the person. It feels as though she was trying to create a specific impression, maybe making Kim Joo-Young appear intimidating or unapproachable, possibly to support her claims.
mhj name drop those ggs names, she throw them to the sharks without any remorse bc a report even ask her if she didnt feel anything about the hate this was bringing to illit and lsfrm
nj side with her, so they side with that too
decide if they are brainwashed kids or adults with a choice, bc they can't be both
The post you replied to isn't about the hate either side is getting on a whole or who named dropped who first. It's about the manager being rude to NJs incident which I'll repeat at no point does Hanni or even MHJ say so the group in this incident is.
As for the "they side with her too" crap, sorry no that is not how that works. Just because they want her back as ceo doesn't mean they agree with everything she says or does. The fact some think just because NJs want her back or side with her against Hybe they approve the hate those groups get is nonsense.
I'd rather have this slowdown compared to what is going on in reddit. That place is descending into a special type of madness.
They pretty much kicked out all the dissenting voices, and they are spiraling. It is quite telling in recent days that the sources that they bring are from the likes of anti-njs twitter users, seoulite, Lee Jinho, etc.
It sure is. The megathread is actually concerning Im shocked the mods haven't locked it yet. Kpopthoughts/uncensored is a little quite but I think I know why, Blackpink solos. I gotta I say on a side note I thought reddit hated MHJ/NewJeans (which they do) but damn they despise Blackpink with a passion.
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But they fired her, along with many of the creative team and she didn't sign the 2 month producer/director contract. Reading Reddit how they span this is crazy. She isn't replying well might have something to do with getting fired, all the lawsuits and not signing a bad 2 month contract. Isn't this on the new ceo do her actual job? If MHJ isn't responding then book a new arena regardless it's your job a new ceo.
Using brain can tell us what's at play here lol
Hybe own all messages legally from their company server, they can just release it as they have rights to it. They wouldn't defame MHJ directly still, even though we know outlets got the MHJ KKT from Hybe behind the scene. All I read is that it was a private shit talk, this guy leaked it publicly just on time for 25th specifically.
Tokkie now admit that KKT were real because I'm pretty sure so many were saying it not.
Pot kettle black......
So what you're saying is it's fine Hybe to release edit texts or recordings they own before court date to control a narrative but when the press does the same thing before a big date you're not a fan?
But nj debut in Japan WAS underwhelming tho
U don't need to get pay to post that fnfkkff
There were even threads about that here
It peaked #1 on multiple Japanese Charts and sold over a million. Two sold out Tokyo Dome shows with a million applicants with no Japanese members or even a full album isn't underwhelming. This was during this nonsense too and Hybe leaking all this during the shows too.
Stumbled across this reddit thread with BSH fans asking why people hate BSH so much.
I just saw this too, this saga keeps reaching new levels of weirdness. Reddit is now defending Bang PD. I mean any quick google search will show his lets say checkered history. Ironically enough most of these stories came from angry Army. I remember being on kpopthoughts talking about stocks when Big Hit went from that to Hybe, was a big deal at the time how the BTS lads got screwed out of stocks. Now Reddit loves the guy.
Sorry to the mods if posting Reddit opinions is against the rules but some of these posts are so delusional. I've been on Reddit for a decade but the kpop section is a fan page at this point. Never would have thought allkpop, pan and theqoo would be more neutral then reddit but here we are.
