I have watched dance practice more than the mv too 
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Posts by vocaldoll
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It makes me wonder. If 20 years ago, people have access to YouTube and other social media like now, and not just consume whatever tv or radio put out (which heavily dependent on how music labels able to push their acts to radio and tv), how many icons and legends will remain? And how different would the music landscape will be?
Right now we still have radio play as indicator of popularity. Can’t wait for that to phase out
We see korean reality shows like show me the money completely dominate the charts every year. Korean tv and US radio are still being consumed by a lot of people even though it's decreased. There's still long way to go before people completely stop consuming them.
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Y'all do know that Spotify and YT aren't equal to good numbers internationally. OTG had average longevity on BB charts despite debuting #1 on both. While I don't see Nayeon beating her numbers, she can do 5 or 6 weeks so the gap ain't that big.
Also, Japan is international. I know y'all always ignore it when it comes to international achievements but it is the second biggest music market in the world. If POP does well there then longevity on BB will be good.
Korean charting we will see. POP is doing better than AF and Scientist so far.
this is the definition of copium. Ok then, let's see how nayeon does longevity wise.
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their domestic popularity is just their company putting them on tv everyday so probably not. Kpop has changed.
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'Despite what the people who actually (try to) buy albums say'
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good luck to nayeon she will need it. She will definetely be feeling a lot of pressure.
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IVE has the sales, the popularity, the charting. They should be sweeping all award shows or it's rigged.
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GP popularity..? İf they can sell...? I can't believe there are still people who doubt that BTS is selling the stadiums lol
The artist releases a song > The artist's company pays the radios so that the song is played every 15 minutes + streams + low sales > The song stays on the charts for months > The artist decides to go on a concert tour because they're so popular > Artist struggle in selling tickets for venues with 3000-6000 seats.
Artist considered popular for being on the chart for months # Artist in demand by GP
The artist releases a song > It is played as little as possible on the radio + streams + but sells best > The song hits the top of the chart and stays there for a while > The artist decides to go on a concert tour > Although all their concerts are in the stadium, concert tickets all over US are completely sold out.
Artist considered popular for being on the chart for months = Artist in demand by GP
Popular but according to whom? You may think that certain songs and artists are popular with the GP because of the manipulation that radios create on the charts, but is that really so? As you said, we are in the stream age. If Billboard was so bothered by the manipulation on the their charts, they would increase the weight of the stream and decrease the weight of the radio rather than increase it. But they did the opposite, didn't they?
I guess it was easier to block BTS, who is find a way stay on the top without radio, that just shattered their chart, which they had made into a manipulation paradise, than to block all manipulation. ok bg stan i'm not going to give u lecture on real popularity here
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they are more popular than people think. I'm impressed with their streams as well.
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I found this gem of an allkpop article. Too much misinformation being spread by big fandoms trying to change the narrative,
Rumors about BIG 3 requesting the government military exemption for their idols have been going around for 4 years.A netizen debunked the rumors by exposing the truth.
This article was released on April 17 and viewed 111,374 times. The text translation is below!
Original Post: here
Post reaction:
People jump on the bandwagon by reading tweets instead of official news.
Recently, it's claimed that it was the big entertainment companies that requested military service exemption from the government in 2018 and that HYBE and BTS were under pressure.
After the news broke that big agencies met with Korea Management Association, some fans screenshot certain parts of the article and shared it on Twitter, Pann, and The Qoo, making it look like big agencies asked the government to exempt their idols from military service. As usual, fans kept spreading false information instead of trying to read the whole news.
1. First of all, in July 2018, activist and politician Ha Tae-kyung said that BTS should be exempted from the military as they topped the Billboard chart.
2. It (Hae Tae-Kyung's suggestion) became a hot topic. The media was full of news about the possibility of BTS' exemption from military service. There was the news almost every day for a month. BTS' fans supported the idea and trended hashtags on Twitter and sent e-mails to the Blue House.
3. A government official said they would like to listen to the entertainment industry representatives about the idols' military service.
(Edaily news) "According to the entertainment industry officials on the 4th, in the middle of last month, a government official told the industry representatives that they would like to listen to the situation and positions of agencies related to the enlistment and service of celebrities. Accordingly, industry officials have recently gathered to discuss the situation related to the military enlistment of pop culture artists, the timing of the enlistment, and possible alternatives to alternative service to be delivered to the government."
"Discussions were held at this meeting, such as creating an objective standard so that celebrities can also be admitted to the arts and sports personnel and requesting that the enlistment be delayed as much as possible within the limit allowed by law."
As you can see, no company requested a meeting. It was a government official who invited them. Also, it was not limited to artists belonging to big agencies, but the entire industry. Also, it was not about military exemption but delaying the military service.
SM, YG, and JYP, who did not raise the issue of military enlistment had to take the responsibility.
Netizen comments:
1.[+247, -42] It was collusion between Big Hit, the politician, the media, and the government.
The politician raised his voice about BTS' military exemption. The media articles about this were all positive. Most of them supported the idea by saying athletes are exempted so BTS should be, too. And the reason was Billboard chart that nobody in the world cares except for idol fans.
The government said they would discuss it. The government invited industry representatives and Big Hit didn't join on purpose, to make it look like they weren't involved in anything... and they had their trust in the government that supported BTS since the beginning. Big Hit and BTS members acted like they didn't care about the decision and that they would join the military no matter what. They even write lyrics about it. SM, YG, and JYP were left holding the bag. The government had been trying to pass the law in favor of BTS (not in favor of any other groups). And now, the government is about to change. So, Big Hit is insisting on the National Assembly to make a decision on BTS service exemption.
2.[+216, -46] These guys are money-addicted since they were born. At first, CJ invested 5 billion Won. They were promoted and sponsored by CJ. CJ's outside director served as the Minister of Culture and Tourism under Moon Jae In -The backbone of the Presidential Secretary for Civil Affairsㄷㄷㄷ but they are a "dirty spoon"ㅋㅋㅋ
(dirty spoon is the opposite of being born with 'silver spoon')
3.[+204, -33] There is also this article. The journalist said he received money for writing an article about BTS' military exemption and their effect on tourismㅋㅋㅋ
4.[+158, -9] I remember this. That BTS didn't even think about the military exemption. Armys said big companies gathered together without Big Hit and asked for military exemption. The reality was that Big Hit didn't attend because they wanted to look like they weren't interested in it, and other agencies attended because the government called them. Suga even wrote a song about it. What's the result? The 3 big companies' idols are serving in the military, and only Big Hit idols are receiving special treatment. HYBE-Democratic collusion needs to be investigated.
5.[+125, -7] They invited 100 reporters to Las Vegas and gave them a free tour. Somehow, articles on the exemption from the military came out. In Dispatch survey, there were only 500 people. They even wrote an eloquent article about it lol.
6.[+121, -100] It was strange that whenever BTS did something, the news came out and it became a hot topic too much. Even if they do a normal concert that all other idols do, the news will come out on the TV. And the news will be like "What's the economic effect?" It's all controlled by the Democratic government.
7.[+114, -3] Must be lucky to have a lot of money. If 100 reporters were provided with flight, hotel, and course meal, it will be like 500 million won per person.
8.[+110, -6] I'm really sick of this fandom. Stop trying to grab other idols by the hair
9.[+100, -3] [Joongang Ilbo's article] Secretary of the ruling party to get a job at Big Hit
It has been confirmed that former secretaries of Rep. Ahn Min-seok of the Democratic Party of Korea, chairman of Culture, Sports and Tourism, and Choi Jae-seong of the Democratic Party of Korea, who belong to the National Defense Commission, have been employed by Big Hit.
10.[+100, -5] BTS' company listing on the stock market was completely strange, but it was blown up at a ridiculously high price. Company executives created a private equity fund and made hundreds of billions of won in just a few days. But no investigation? Idols sponsored by the government ㅋㅋㅋ
11.[+92, -12] Crazy lawmakers who want them to be exempted from military service because they ranked first on an album chart in other countries, and a crazy company that says, 'Please give me an answer as soon as possible because BTS having a hard time'
12.[+92, -12] They're not promoting national prestige. Foreign Armys insult and look down on Korea. They say BTS is not K-Pop, and when they go to a concert and see Koreans, they take pictures with their phones and mock them. HYBE itself is more for Americans than Koreans, so foreign fans look down on Korea.
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Not related to the RAKs themselves but it’s too funny to not get posted
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armys don't care about the state of kpop's affair in the future, it could continue to grow or it could disintegrate when BTS is absent as a group, whatever happens, happens.
What we find problematic is the pure gaslighting of BTS, once again putting them in a difficult position, forcing them to choose the hallyu wave and kpop's prosperity over themselves when they just announced a break.
At first it was other companies and politicians rallying for an exemption for idols using BTS as poster boys, letting them take the fall for any and all backlash. Then it was a constant back and forth of BTS not deserving exemption to how allegedly unfair it was for everyone else to stringing the exemption over their heads for years. Now when BTS has probably reconciled with the reality of their situation and wants to rest to rejuvenate and pursue solo activities....they're once again launched into a political ploy. Of course, we're mad.
If kpop sees any decline, BTS is going to be blamed for being selfish and owing the country. So all in all, fuck kpop.
hmm a lot to unpack here. Shifting the whole blame to everyone else possible except armys and hybe who are the ones who put bts in that difficult position when they looked scared to tell the truth. the whole narrative has changed and i'm really surprised how quick it was after that live because armys wanted that exemption and for them to continue as a group more than anyone else. As an outsider just calling out the hypocrisy in ur findings
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