Posts by andydela

They chart very well for a kpop group, but you have to compare that to how the weekend, justin bieber, and taylor swift chart and they are nowhere near that. BTS is getting closer to that but they still don't do the same numbers as those other acts in the U.S.

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TSA might be a tough fight this year

Yeah i'm expecting carats and blinks to go all out, but so will armys since we all want them to win all 4 categories

Oh seventeen and bp too!! Congratss!!

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An irrelevant music show that only Armys care about!! Can’t wait!

As we should since BTS are the only ones getting nominations, why should you care

I'll check out both groups, but I'm more curious about the bh x soumu group because of min heejin

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That's too many groups if you ask me

I mean they are all technically in different companies, if they are able to give all groups good music and concepts then they should be fine. People were worried about them debuting enhypen so close after txt and they were able to deliver in both music and concept.

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i-Land is going to have a girlie group too? I feel like it's too much

yeah they announced s2 at the end of s1. It will probably start next year though, they've been doing female auditions for belift for a while now.

I'm really curious about their ngg, wonder how many members they will have since iland gg will probably be 7

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Is it worth checking out?? Cause their debut did nothing for me

The same producers worked on both tts so you might feel the same way

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treasure had their little produce shows and then were radio silent for two years. and Iland was a flop...in korea but they were constantly trending on twitter so i woildnt call that a flop internationaly. anywho album sales are more a sign of dedicated fans rather than immense popularity. produce shows build dedicated fans for sure. you get to see them grow and improve and you voted long and hard to get the member to debut. even "flop" treasure still sells pretty well for a group that didnt promote well after the show. why did the fans still stick around for so long....dedication

Why are you quoting me though? I was telling the other person how people were calling them flops, i never did. I know both groups are doing well and im glad.

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They love comparing but when we start doing the same it's suddenly a problem and everyone goes "you didn't need to bring up my group" well you didn't need to bring up the 100 seniors of enhypen in a thread that was meant to celebrate their achievement too lmao

I was trying to demonstrate how its only them getting the survival show excuse after their debut. Didn't even bring other groups sales numbers into the equation but suddenly everyone got defensive.

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u didn't need to mention them at all, yeah their growth is due to their talent & their music, strong producers & creative team behind them so i have expected this growth

why not? I didn't say anything bad, not my fault if you decided to be offended by a fact.

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so u're comparing show with 20 billion budget and starred IU, Zico, Rain, BTS, SVT and broadcasted through youtube, mnet, tvn with a show that is basically recorded in one small room and broadcasted through vlive? i have watched both I-Land & yg treasure box i couldn't watch stray kids's survival show

but SKZ's survival show didn't much help them at all, privilege? they have privilege but their privilege isn't that much. If they had privilege they would sell 200K, 300K with their debut, but they have barely sold 100K and they weren't that big until God's Menu. God's Menu has given them huge growth. And it is not some song that is produced by company. It is the song that they have produced by themselves. So their success is all of their hardwork. For Treasure yeah their survival show basically gave them exposure. But they have debuted 2 years after their survival show and hype is already lost and many fans left due to waiting, also bs scandal made lots of people to hate YG artists and basically no one wanted to to check out Treasure.

Treasure is bg and Blackpink is gg, so their audiences are different

And some blinks don't like Treasure, because of YG's mistreatment to their female idols

Twice is cute gg, SKZ is dark bg

their audiences are comp different lol

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The issue is that we weren't comparing the scale of the shows at the beginning of the thread. People keep saying that enhypen's sales are all due to the show. If that was true they wouldn't have had such a big growth from debut to 1st cb, thats all thanks to them and their music. No one ever credits stray kids and treasures sales to their show that was my point.

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Since you all love comparing, let me make some comparisons too.

You say the sales are because of the survival show - okay. Where are treasure and stray kids' sales that come from survival shows AND big 3 companies? Even txt's that are the 4th gen leaders, benefited the most from bts hype and come from bighit? I won't bring up girl groups here since we know they suck at physicals the way bgs suck at digitals.

Enhypen broke two years old record held by X1. They sold almost 100k more in one day than they did for a week with their previous album. They became the first and only 4th gen group to have over 300k on first day. No matter what people say, enhypen are the strongest 4th gen group when it comes to physicals. Keep saying it's out of the survival show y'all called flop, that it's out of the privilege or whatever else you'll come up with to put them down.

It makes me happy to see y'all being bitter. Nobody would care and give a shit about a group unless they find it as a threat, that's right, be scared, enhypen's coming for your faves

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Exactly when they debuted everyone kept saying they were nowhere to be found and no one was talking about them. Now that they are proving they are growing into a physical monster everyone is now saying its all due to the show they called "flop".

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straykids & treasure reality show where small scale show

yg treasure box only broadcasted through vlive & jtbc2

and kpop is only starting to become popular during straykids show so their 1st week sales werent that high

I-Land has promoted internationally with so many popular artists and it has much bigger show in scale

broadcasted through youtube, mnet, tvn etc

I-Land korean rating was low but internationally so many have watched, i have watched too

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and yet like i said some people were still calling it a flop show. It also didnt help that it was aired after the rigging scandal. Glad they are doing well.

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It's more about how a reality show gives you a head start imo.

There sales are similar to produce groups. It's nothing insane

Didn't Stray kids and treasure have a reality show pre-debut? People were also calling i-land a flop People need to pick a narrative.

14?!?!? on their FIRST comebackk

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Wow.

How many versions does it have?

3

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Oh, so you are one of those who don't know the difference between LVMH and LV

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LV doesn't own anything, LVMH owns all those brands you mentioned including LV.

Am surprised armies don't know this. You guys are normally good with info such as this.

And if anything Dior holds the largest share of LVMH.

my mistake they are still higher on the totem pole though. Don't act like some people didn't use bts not having a luxury brand deal as a drag.