Posts by moonlightelle
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People who say this have probably never heard a live performance in their life let alone a BTS one. Kpop has brainwashed most of you to think that a live performance has to be perfect to the point that you can't hear even one's breath, when in reality 90% of them lip-sync for most of their careers.
Was this the best Jimin's live performance? No, but he can sing. Most encores are bad because of the sound, they can't hear themselves properly, you can see Jimin touching his ear piece constantly throughout the video.
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I'm surprised anyone is surprised tbh. BTS has always been known for having a remarkably weak vocal line and it's pretty well known their vocal coaching is either inconsistent or non-existent. Jimin in particular while not being the weakest has the most inconsistencies because of his method of singing.
Weak singer sings weakly. Big whoop
that's rich coming from a blink
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Exactly, but you shouldn't pretend like Kai achievements (in this case) happened because of autoplay.
That's the whole point and I am not sure why that is so hard to understand?
I don't care about Kai or his achievements. This thread is like typical stan behavior when you latch on to a tweet with 10 likes just to call out people. You guys act like armys are so pressed and threatened by Kai and I just checked, the guy is struggling to stay in top 200 and tanked the korean charts, like make it make sense.
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What a blatant lie 😭
This whole thread is proof of that.
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Believe it or not it's the exo-ls that came up with this narrative. If you wanna block someone for whatever reason, it's your right and you shouldn't have to explain yourself.
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I have lots of kpop groups blocked on Spotify mostly because they were messing up my discover weekly playlist and I don't listen to their songs. I don't get what's the problem here...
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That’s not I what mean when someone will say I do not like x song a fan will respond but ! But it’s a pre release. What does it mean ??!!
Personally I see it as another way to pointlessly throw hate at someone. It's not that deep, it's a song, you either like it or not. It makes sense to me why a pre-release song might not be as strong as the title but it's not always the case.
Most who complain about these things are always non fans who don't like the group/artist in the first place and think the world revolves around them and their taste in music.
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Define what 'good song' means first because taste is simply subjective. If it's not an artist that you like in the first place, then why complain about what fans think? I don't see pre-releases as the strongest song in the album and neither do kpop companies, that's mostly an introduction to the album or as it is used today, as a marketing tool to create hype before the official release.
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Newjeans got more radioplay than LC ever did. If people think I’m exaggerating LC has only 5 spins on radio so far last I checked
Also geffen is what helps with all related promotions for Newjeans in the west including the sweet Spotify deals they were able to sign up. But I don’t follow Newjeans so I’m sure there is more promo material
Still even getting a spot on TTH is enough in my books because I know the song is that good. A lot of locals already tuned in and I’m seeing a good reception overall. I’ll just get really pissed if BH let’s this opportunity pass through their fingers
I mean it's Hybe, they stopped making sense long time ago. I'm starting to suspect some beef between spotify and bh given the stunts they had pulled last year. But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if it's just BH not bothering to do the bare minimum for their artists, every solo release has had some type of issues so far and we have yet to see the full potential of each member.
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The key point here is that BTS don’t need to sign with any label before they get these promos
CR did it fine when they were only distributors for BTS. So far BH has been giving subpar promo along with geffen. But I doubt the point lies with geffen because they promote Newjeans fine
So at the end of the day I still think BH is the reason why we won’t get any shit done
Throwing remixes at us won’t solve the core problem that Jimin needs to promote his song to new listeners. That’s how you grow
I agree with you but what sort of promos are we talking about? I'm not familiar with New Jeans so I don't know what Geffen does for them but personally I haven't heard much beside the distribution deal and playing at festivals.
If it's korean promos then I 100% agree that HYBE can do so much more, they've been acting stupid and that's not new but if we're talking about US promos then there's only so much they can do without the support of a major US label.
Dynamite and Butter were special cases. Look at the main writers and producers form those tracks. There is specific reason why those tracks were given full out support by Columbia. Those were Columbia in-house productions, even the damn CEO had writing credits on Butter. Little to no production/ writing input from BTS and HYBE.
Yes, that's basically it. This is basically why we haven't seen BTS or any of the solos promoted as heavily as they did with Butter and Dynamite. A lot of armys have mistaken this for Hybe's full ability at promoting BTS in the states and worldwide but the truth is Columbia had a big hand in it because it was in their best interest at that time.
Kpop fans often think with emotion instead of logic, it's way easier to point fingers rather than understand the business behind it.
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I wrote in response to another user but I'll say it again, it's not as simple as you guys think. Most labels under hybe america are co-owned or partnered by/with UMG. If BTS were to sign with any of the labels, hybe wouldn't have 100% control over them, they'd be highly dependent on UMG on top of the distribution deal. Take this info as you wish.
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i used to always stand behind this decision - not joining a US label to keep hybe in full control - but seeing how insanely incompetent and even, to a certain level, sabotaging hybe has become towards bts, can't say UMG getting some influence would hurt... at least UMGs focus wouldn't be downplaying bts to make their other groups seem bigger.
I would agree but UMG and most of US labels don't know unfortunately how to manage kpop groups properly. We've seen, and I don't want to give names, their attempts at promoting
(aka payola)groups and pushing them in hopes to top charts that were so painfully obvious(and not that successful)that I'd rather not see this happen with BTS. Hybe has made a LOT of stupid decisions but there's gotta be a bigger reason as to why BTS hasn't joined any US label in all these years...Personally I value artistic freedom and integrity over anything, even better charting performance, but I get why so many armys are frustrated, in a way I am too but there's only so much we can do as fans. -
again i reiterate that they have a whole american hybe business division headed by scooter braun so all of this talk about American labels doesn't even matter...
It's really not that simple. All those roads lead to Universal Music, Hybe wouldn't have 100% control of BTS if they were to sign to Scooter or any other label under Itacha Holdings.
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all of this matters for long term contracts
i'm talking about pushing 1 song every 3-4 months and these are tracks that are charting on us spotify
trust me its not that difficult for hybe to do it
I think I'm in minority here but I'm glad BTS is not signed under any US label. That sort of contract is a double edge sword and it will definitely come with a price, being either their artistic freedom and integrity or who knows what else. I don't think people have any idea how controlling and manipulating these labels can be behind the scenes.
It's frustrating to see how charts and streaming platforms screw us over but at the same time they're doing exceptionally well worldwide as it is. Payola can only do so much in the end, I've seen plenty of artists being the talk of the month, topping every chart then slowly fading...it's really not worth it in the long run.
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true lmao.
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I did some digging and 2 songs can't have the same code unless they're the same and released in different albums. For example, Dynamite the single has the same code as Dynamite in BE, remixes and other variations must have different codes. So yeah, Spotify definitely has multiple criteria for combining streams
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How do you check it? Is it visible somewhere on desktop/phone app?
google 'how to find the isrc code' and that should help you, I'm not sure if it's allowed to link websites here.
Funny thing is, Jimin's 'Like Crazy' and the english version have different codes so spotify might have a different system that doesn't rely on ISRC codes...
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About SMF, MS only had English version.
Ok, I'll check and edit this post
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they have different codes, somebody at jyp messed up
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Well don't know what is up to but if they are combining then all songs should be combined. Twice was dragged on twitter for poor debut but if they combined it would've been one of their highest debuts. But the song wasn't well received anyway, so idc, hopefully next time they learn from it.
If you're talking about 'Moonlight Sunrise' they have the save IRSC code so the streams were most likely combined.
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And me i find this hypocrites that you are all acting like you care about idols mental health and how they feel
and can't even think if they would be comfortable or not with unknow people not calling them by the stage name they decided to use before debuting
And prefer to call them by their real name without even knowing if it doesn't make this idol awkward and uncomfortable
95% of the time the stage name is chosen by the company, mostly for 3 reasons:
1. to be easier to remember
2. to avoid confusion in case there's another celebrity with a similar name.
3. to fit in with the group's image
Their real name is made public, unless an idol states they don't want to be called by their real name then I don't see any reason why you should make a fuss about it. Most idols nowadays use their names anyway...