Posts by lucasx

Quote from dontwannacry04

Seventeen still has more overall streams and consistently more listeners compared to NCT on Spotify.

They don't, overall and monthly...

svt monthly listeners on spotify: 2.9M

NCT 127 monthly listeners on spotify: 2.96M

Actually NCT is outperforming svt in every category that can be measured right now...

Touring power cant be measured right now...

Quote from dontwannacry04

Quote from dontwannacry04

wait for the June comeback, Seventeen hasn’t had a comeback for nearly 7 months now.

127 will also comeback this year...

Quote from dontwannacry04

Semicolon was a special album and only had 1 standard version. The 13 versions were just the special copies and only 100k were printed, so based off the sales those 1M sales out of 1.1M sales are only the 1 standard version. The ratio is absolutely great and especially considering how they were able to sell a million with just a single version with back-to-back comebacks— especially for a comeback Carats came to know about literally a week before the release.

Resonance pt.2 is a repack and was released like 20 days after the pt.1, and they still managed to sell 1.5M with pt.1 and 1.3M with pt.2

Quote from dontwannacry04

Their achievements, overall sales, streams, touring are greater still greater than each sub-unit.

Only if you are comparing svt with the sub units, NCT already outsold svt overall and in a single release, NCT Dream outcharted them...

Latest comebacks...

spotify:

kick it - 59M

Make a wish - 54M

Left and right - 44M

Home-run - 22M

Youtube:

Left and right - 84M

Home-run - 52M

kick it - 119M

Make a wish - 183M

The only thing you can argue is touring , but no one is touring for more than a year...

Quote from MassiveKpopFan

L&R got more points than both of them combined.

It's because nct's b-sides charted for longer that they got more digital points overall compared to SVT last year.

kick it got more likes tho (110k)

L&R 82k.

btw how do you check the points ?

Quote from MassiveKpopFan

Peak doesn't matter, Punch charted for 2 weeks and fell out. L&R got 120 million+ points.

it is fairer to compare with "kick it" the title track of neo zone...

Quote from helixvc

Users in those forums always overreact like always. I miss floppy and all the others trolls with their fun threads these were 100x better than these kind of thread with fans who just overrate their faves achievements and spread fake numbers to feel superior.

SKZ good Spotify streams are becoming overrated because their fans.

The same with nct stans with digital performance being 32# on melon and Yt adds dosent make them a digital monster.

The same with svt.

All these groups don't have any big achievements but their fans fighting each others for their live.

1.7M pre-orders are not a big achievement ?

Ok...

Thats huge!

Most bgs cant even chart with title tracks...

Quote from Yumeku

Ok from what I read is NCT is below 17 and stray kidz because 17 can sell domes and NCT never did (even though their growth that started these comparisons was in 2020 ie when they can’t hold concerts anytime to compare except online concerts; which they were the best selling bg at after BTS).

And they are below stray kids because one unit from NCT doesn’t have as much Spotify numbers as stray kids (even though a unit has less songs to compare and obviously the whole NCT group not units have more anyway).

So if an NCT unit had the same/more spotify numbers and nct sold domes, will this end your argument? Just curious

nah, they will make another narrative to dismiss NCT success, like always...

"NCT are flops"

NCT already sold 11M albums, 12/13 by the end of the year...

"They just sold this much bcs they have 23 members..."i mean this even makes sense? lol

NCT dream double million-seller with 7 members

Quote from myaza

From a bundles tracking page:pasted-from-clipboard.png

Resonance had no bundles, what are you trying to prove ?

Quote from kayn

Stray Kids: 1.3bi streams

NCT (all units although it doesn't make any sense to compare 3 different groups added to a group with a 3-year career): 2bi streams

at last Stray Kids will pass all NCT units streams soon 🤷‍♂️ who cares

lol, if we are counting NCT, then there's no chance for skz...

and they are not surpassing NCT anytime soon.

I really don't care, I just found it cringe, this narrative that skz is doing AMAZING on streams and NCT is flopping or doing bad at it

Quote from myaza

It did have merch bundles. First one had merch + tour bundles, second one only merch bundles.

Why are you claiming these US sales are legit, when they have no US streams and cant even do well on US itunes? Its clear something shady is going on. Adding SM's penchant for chart manipulation and proven fraud on Billboard...

resonance is in the top 10 Best Selling Pure Albums of 2020 (US), with no bundles

Quote from kayn

Miroh has more streams than any NCT song lmao

Back Door > all NCT releases in 2020

Easy (bside) is bigger than Punch (title)

lmao, you made this looks like there's a huge gap or something...

Gods menu - 98

Miroh - 89M

Backdoor - 65M

My Pace - 54M

Hellevator - 53M

Boss - 85M

Cherry Bomb - 82M

Boom - 70M

Baby Dont Stop - 67M

Kick it - 59M

Quote from bumble-bunny

They are not the same group. You can say nct dream is the third. You can even say nct dream and 127 are tied at 3.

lol, Is unfair to say that NCT is a group, but is fair to say that NCT units are groups ? they are a group with a concept that is not friendly at all. People trying to make this an advantage just doesn't make sense for me.

Quote from JustWhatIThink

It's almost like they are all part of NCT. And depends on what you define as "the industry". Separating them won't make much difference anyways as they have 2 million seller units. They are at the top of the game even separating them.But anyways NCT is NCT. A 23 member-group and brand which took a lot of risks and paid off, and now that they are too succesfull it's suddenly unfair. Even if we were only talking about NCT as their yearly projects Resonance PT.1 alone became the best selling album ever under SM and with the part 2 Resonance sold +2,700,000 units. Acting like NCT isn't up there is just delusion at this point.

This!

Quote from babyjinx1221

not sure of ranking but definitely in top 5.

have they outsold touring numbers of bb, exo and seventeen? it’s only been a day for digital charting, we cannot assess based on that.

i'm pretty sure they will when covid is over...

But lets be real, isnt just "a day for digital charting".

*Physicals

*Digitals

*Streams/views

?no one can tour right now

that 23 members narrative is dead now, Dream made it with only 7 members

Quote from itiswhatitisss

They could've definitely gotten a PAK with the old Melon chart. Congrats!

True

Quote from xoxo-fr

I though Flo was like Melon,based on uls!

yeah, I thought that too, because the chart reform thing

Quote from killingtime1934

nah, its fandom streaming if u see how their numbers are doing on melon

kick it also reach 1 on flo last year

O.o

Quote from motorp77

Is that directly from SM? Can't read korean

yes