I think you are a bit too bias. I love Everglow but sheesh, I still try to be objective.
Posts by winniethepb
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I'm pretty sure they are done filming. Apparently this M/V took three days to film and they got little sleep. Expect logo teaser in 4 hours in 30 mins?
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I loved everglow bon bon chocolat from the beginning, but when I found out their company was chinese, I knew it meant trouble... china and south korea have never had good relationships, in fact, many countries got bad opinion of china, so I waited for something to happen, and then yiren had to post, maybe she didn't post, maybe her company did 'cause chinese artists have to talk highly of china to the world or got banned.
I think singers should just sing, not engage in political stuff, but I guess china use their artists as a way of propaganda
That's actually not true. Just look at Figure 20 ( https://carnegieendowment.org/…-outside-powers-pub-81737), displaying South Koreas public opinion on the threat perception by country, they haven't always had tension. The data shows major correlation between China and events leading to such high threat perception.
- Spiked after 2008, this is after the Beijing Olympic when Chinese economy spiked. This had to do with pollution migrating to South Korea and China's emergence as a world power. Media negatively portrays China.
- Decrease after 2012 and 2016: [2012] Bilateral talks between Obama and Xi. Came to many agreements. [2016] Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) establishment. Promoting trade between Asia, including the United states. Media optimistic on China and U.S. Relations.
- Increased after 2016: Trump took office tainting China and established THAAD Deployment. Media negatively talks about China. North Korea threat perception significantly goes down due to Trump's dialogues with Kim Jung Un. How interesting... Clearly media in play because North Korea still has nukes and testing long range ICBMs...
Google China right now, tell me if you see anything positive written... People underestimate the power of U.S. media. U.S. doesn't just have influence of their own media but also has influence on allies'media.
To sum it up, what changes people's perception is the narrative of the controlling media. Don't say Chinese propaganda this and that.. The real propaganda is right under your nose and it's affecting your perception. China does something positive, the narrative with twist in a way where it'll make it negative.
I'm straight up spitting facts and figures, whether you believe in it or not is not my problem.
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bold of you to assume that company just 100% ignore fans opinion.
Especially when the group is almost 100% fan pushed with massive views and Twitter buzz but doesn't have that GP exposure yet in Korea.
And no IM not only talking about wizone coz i said "both sides of the fandom doesn't really like the idea of it." coz there's a posibilities of yena genting pushed and became the new center .
And if u think i have problem with EverGlow,Yuehua the answer is no i just don't like the idea where's politic meddle with entertainment.
I only afraid coz of the big anti Chinese sentiment in kr right now . And if something does happennd in the future i'm afraid it's gonna stick to her even tho it's not her and the company fault. and she's gonna be in an awkward place where if something does happen the company have to side with the Chinese gov and make her looks like she have the same stand with them(like how JYP forced tzuyu to apologize, thank God the sentiment is not big back then) .
And not long ago they got a warning from Chinese govt for performing on a military event.
And no one mess with Chinese govt, even Jack ma got fined 2 billion USD for anti Chinese speech.
And when i watch the speech it's not even that bad for it to be 2.7 billion fine.
i'm just afraid, i hope u understand where i'm standing in this.
I honestly don't care if she join group like wjsn where theres 2 company own it , so there's some leeway for Lil bit of freedom .
Jack Ma got fined for antitrust and when the media says Jack Ma, it's Alibaba. Not sure what this has to do with anti-speech.
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How old I need to be so I can get in(Im 12 year old)
You have to be 18+ for chinese survival shows.
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I am honestly uneducated in those kinds of things happening. thank you, but, I don't really understand what you mean... does that mean it was debunked? I was just mentioning it as a possibility for yena I'm not sure. I heard about the situation but never really looked into it.
It's been debunked, but whether or not people believe in the debunk is another story.
As for Yena, my prediction is her joining Everglow and if Everglow does well next 2-3 comebacks, it's OT7. Otherwise, I see OT6 but rather Yena leaving, it's Yiren joining YWY or Chuang.
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Enough with the Yiren "scandal". Most people make a stance even though they don't even understand the situation well enough. In any case, sanctioning a region economically is an abuse of human rights, depriving the local people of economic development. The biggest evidence of any genocide is a mass migration of people taking refuge. For example, the hundred of thousands Jewish taking refuge to avoid the Nazi Germany, 700,000 Muslims in Myanmar escaping from ethnic cleansing (Even the Suu Kyi, the people's leader who is under arrest my the military defended the genocide at a UN meeting) and 100k+ non arabs of South Sudan seeking asylum in neighboring countries. No such event is taking place in the Autonomous Region of Xinjiang. In fact, evidence shows the local ethnic population has dramatically grown in the past decade which is an indicator of stability and economic prosperity.
People, open up your minds and do some research yourself before claiming anything.
I despise politicizing entertainment but if necessary, I must refute when I see false information.
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No company takes advantage of survival shows better than Starship and Yuehua. Without a doubt, their artists will do well. As for the others, I wish them the best.
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In terms of execution, definitely gidle then Everglow. Other groups just doesn't deliver the same rhythm and flow. That said, I think Loona (if you consider them 4th gen) has some potential in rapping, for example, the rap section in the beginning of Why Not? was executed very well, props to Heejin.
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Leaning towards socialism doesn't mean it'll lead to communism. Communism is just an extreme type of socialism, where everyone is equal in society. Most people desire a hybrid of capitalism and socialism, similar to what many European nations have. It's important to have capitalism for competition and innovations, and socialism for reducing wealth gaps.
That said, I can tell you for sure a large majority of K-pop fans lean middle right.
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I feel really sad for Oscar
Also for Caelan, he was so close.
But the whole group is great. I like every one of them so much.
This had been a GREAT Chuang. The finals was a lot more satisfying than last year which was dominated by Yiyang being left off.
Oscar is good and so is Caelan, but AK's rap is just different. When I first heard his rap, it just hit me. Very unique and when he sing raps, it really resonates.
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So, if Africans straighten their hair, that's cultural appropriation ( of Asian hair) too?
OFC Black people can't get their hair straightened. It's been apart of Asian culture for millenniums.
Asians would be totally offended because straight hair is an Asian identity.Also only East Asians should be allowed to use chopsticks because if others use it, it's cultural appropriation.
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Chances are they are part of an ethnic minority in China or mixed with them. There's many historical paintings and statues of Han Chinese (the majority in that country), none had curly hair
According to your logic. If you are so against Yuqi from having curled hair because it's not in the Chinese Culture...
You should stop listening to KPOP, it's derived from western culture
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Actually that's problematic because a lot of white people were born in Asia. Would it be okay for Russians to wear Kimonos? Just think of what you said. Asia is a continent (geography), not a culture (social)
I don't see what is wrong with Russians wearing Kimonos as to Asians wearing western clothing. TBH, I think you are over thinking the issue. There is nothing wrong with culture exchanges, it's what brings the world together.
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Here is Candace Owens saying how there is no longer systematic racism in the USA.
Maybe you will believe her, I mean she is black after all.
https://thenewamerican.com/can…re-is-no-systemic-racism/
But, I personally think she is full of shit. The USA is still a racist country, even if you can find a few African-American conservatives on YouTube saying the opposite.
Do you know why Trump winning the election is a good thing for America? He exposed so many problems in America that has been hiding in the shadows for all these years. He gave us the opportunity to fix these problems.
To your point, fact checking and critical thinking is very important. However, if there is compelling evidence even after the fact checking, it should not be ignored.
"Maybe you will believe her, I mean she is black after all." - Like I said, I do my fact checking. Clearly there is systematic racism. For example, although this is controversial, affirmative action, even though it gives black people more opportunities, can also be viewed as systematic racism. Just think about. -
If you want to know what is going on in Chinese social media regarding the Xinjiang topic, this website covers weibo trends and how the CCP helps set the narrative.
I don't think you have understood what I've been conveying the entire time. Yes, China has a narrative and so does every country. That's the responsibility of every government, it is to convey to the public they are protagonist. My point is... people should do their fact checking from non bias sources. If you read my earlier post, my justifications came from a UN report, sketchers, and Reuters. I even included a video from 2 years ago about Xinjiang cotton from a Uyghur vlogger, a video which came out way before this event has happened.
BTW, when you refer the Chinese government as CCP, it demonstrates you are already leaning to a side. It's part of the western narrative which you have accepted. You probably don't even realize it.