Posts by myaza

Quote from onlyfacts

If they're going to win only one award or daesang, I'd preferably want it to be Album of the Year for 'Map of the Soul : 7'. Not only it will be historical but also that the album is one of the best albums BTS have ever made. Many people just didn't understand the album and the songs on it but those who did, know that the album is really really good. No wonder it brought many new ARMYs because there's a song for everyone on MOTS7.

If they're winning more than one, I want them to win all of them. Because BTS fucking DESERVE!!! It's not just about music with them. They have done so many things in 2020 to keep people sane during these crazy times. The words are not enough to describe that.

I would want Album Of The Year since its the hardest to win and the one they dont have yet.

MOTS7 deserves, its an amazing album!

Quote from wendii

Wished the korean gov would sponsor the KMA and so they can have an actual high budget ceremony and at least stream on YouTube.. so many great artist.. other k-awards show focus too much on idol groups who the GP doesn’t even know or listen too and they wonder why ratings are becoming abysmal

They should. It would promote non-kpop artists and create a better image for Korean music overall. If you actually listen to past nominees and winners, theyre really good.

Quote from antonbsims

Kings! I hope they sweep the awards this year.

Crazy how MOTS:7 is only the 2nd Kpop idol group album ever to get an Album of the Year nomination (after Love Yourself Answer)

Answer deserved. They seem to prefer the concept heavy ambitious big projects!

Quote from dryheat

Ooooh I hope they get ALOTY then!

It would be hard, they tend to award rock/folk/indie albums usually. But MOTS7 quality would absolutely justify it.

Im going to listen to other nominees when I get the chance. The previous winners have been good.

Quote from dryheat

KMA DASAENG SWEEP INCOMING?

That would be a miracle

No kpop group has ever won Album of The Year at KMAs.

Even the total daesangs score is:

BTS: 3

kpop: 2

Quote from illumiseven

when is KMA ?

February 28th!

Quote from worldlove27

MOTS: 7 getting those well deserved noms as well as dynamite...

also congrats to OMG for their nom with Dolphin

Yeah, its nice to see a small company girl group get recognition for their massive hit!

This means BTS gets nominations in each category they are eligible for (general and pop categories).

Their quality is recognized, as usual!

"The Korean Popular Music Awards is Korea's first music-oriented awards ceremony. It is the only music awards ceremony in Korea that pays attention to albums and songs rather than singers, and awards them without boundaries between mainstream and non-mainstream, based on musical achievement rather than sales volume. It started with 1 in 2004 and marks the 18th this year."

Quote from HardcoreBLINK

U failed to mention IU track is out of top 100 yet SD is surprisingly at #51 lol despite having same ULs

It's definitely army keeping the song inside top 100 at least, normally it should be top 200 now

If by normally you mean shallow empty kpop songs, then of course these are out of top 100 quickly.

It may seem strange, but people listen to actual good songs longer. For decades. The Beatles and Queen are still top groups being streamed right now, outstreaming everyone but BTS. Youre going to call that fandom streaming as well?

IU and Through The Night is a good song and had amazing longevity, Spring Day has even better longevity. Longevity and ULs are not tied by a hardcoded formula.

Quote from MassiveKpopFan

Jang beomjun's record of 29 weeks in the top 10

Nice, theres still some records left!

Quote from motorp77

I feel like until ARMY just dies this song will be forever here. This record is pretty much untouchable unless ARMYs choke massivly

You mean unless GP stops listening to it?

Quote from icyruios

One Direction is still alive?

More alive than any active group. Theres also Queen and Beatles on the list.

It just shows that groups/bands are mostly dead, other than BTS., to be honest.

Quote from SandyBee3

Nothing happened randomly lol. All you gave are theories based on biased researches. There are a lot of Articles explaining the growth of Kpop in America. They all acknowledge BTS big influence but none of them say BTS is why Kpop was getting more followers in America...

So you wanna say you know better why Kpop got bigger in the US then people who work within the US music industry?

https://www.google.de/amp/s/ww…oding-united-states%3Famp

https://www.google.de/amp/s/ww…r-american-pop-mainstream

Billboard

“And even without much radio play here, K-pop’s influence is rapidly growing. As social media and streaming platforms have evolved, so too has an ultra-socially engaged fan base -- one that not only devotes entire Twitter accounts to sending its favorite artists up the Billboard charts but also buys out arenas to support them and tunes in to splashy TV specials just to catch a glimpse of them, sending Korean acts ever nearer to the forefront of American pop.“

“In 2016, China’s dissatisfaction with a U.S.-South Korean missile-system agreement led it to ban all hallyu, or Korean pop cultural content, most prominently K-pop. It was a financial hit to the three main K-pop companies. Some continued to approach China with non-Korean acts, but others focused on sending their artists to burgeoning markets like the United States.”

So many things happened between the 2. and the 3. Gen then had an even bigger influence in the Growth of Kpop in the US.

Social media ( Twitter, YouTube, Instagram) fans were spamming their faves everywhere. Easier access to new content around the World.

Korea loosing China forced them to try America again, this time with a better approach... there is more, these were just examples.

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You posted an article by Tamar Herman and called it "people who work within US industry"? A well known BTS anti?

Theres nothing in these articles to explain the turn to west except BTS proving demand. The China ban may have helped, but if there would not have been BTS, companies would have targeted some other market instead, Latin America or Middle East, where they were already trying.

Social media did not appear out of the blue in 2017. The was a rapid increase in kpop promotions, which did not fall in line with any social media trends. And the kpop invasion was not a response to a demand, they would not have relied on bundles, fraud and over the top promo if it was.

People who make their money from "kpop wave" in media are not unbiased, their livelihood depends on promoting the kpop agenda. Its in their personal interests that there is a "wave", thats what keeps them in business. Especially 2nd gen SM stan gossip journalists.

I am ready for it!

Quote from Jasmine_Waters

I'm expecting nothing to receive something unexpected. This has been my #BTSMOTTO since 2019.

Im not expecting anything big to not be disappointed. But it would be a nice surprise to get more nominations!

I love how stable that ~20 million is even without a comeback!

Since when are Arctic Monkeys in top 10? They didnt even release anything? Are bands coming back?

Book your calendars!

BTS should get TSA (if it exists), best group and digital song sales trophies at least!

Quote from SandyBee3

Nothing is accidental, but there is the possibility that this didn’t solely happened because of BTS. Ever thought of the possibility that Kpop was growing in general and BTS just happened to be the biggest outcome of it ? Companies deciding to promote in the US could be due to demand, it’s easier to distribute and promote if you signed to a US label and a label will only sign you if they see potential in the Artist not the genre they are in.

Where I think BTS definitely had their influence was bringing attention to Kpop.

The rest is solely unto the Artist.

Also it’s just the US tbh, majority of Groups still earn the most in Asia not depending on America. Asia is still the base when it comes to Kpop Acts. Majority of Kpop Groups aren’t popular or known in the US. If the US suddenly decides to not give any attention to Kpop, Kpop will still be at the place where it’s now, it’s still niche in the US.

Kpop was not growing in US. It was declining on charts before BTS. Companies didnt promote after 2nd gen flopped and only started again after BTS proved the demand. The same with getting distribution deals.

This is has been rehashed a thousand times. Its not like companies randomly decided to start promoting after BTSs success or western labels randomly started signing everyone.

Quote from jinaland

That chart proves nothing! Anyone can do some fake charts to prove anything. Also charting can't prove anything. Charting worse doesn't mean number of fans have lessened or people have became less interested. Touring & it's relevance were rising. KCON attendees were always increasing. More western collaborations. More US publications have started to mention kpop. More popular US artist have started mention kpop. There was no 2nd gen media play. We haven't even know what 2nd gen groups have achieved. We haven't even know they have charted in BB. We haven't know they have been invited in European ward shows. Everything was going by it's flow. Everyone was just enjoying the music.

Imagine BB has charted in BB200 in 2012 - the first group to chart with korean album.

no mass streaming & no bulk buying, no fandom plan cuz social media wasn't a thing. Fandoms couldn't plan and set goals for comeback like today's. Also take 1D into account. West haven't had room for kpop group since they had 1D anyway.

When you trying to build something the base is most important. Without a base nothing can exist. It's like if Tesla haven't innovated battery most electronic products would be useless today.

Social media existed in 2012, an article even mentioned the twitter activity of BB EMAs voting and win.

Charts are the only real measurement of popularity. Celebrities mentioning someone can be bought or it can be random, media and articles can be bought and it often is.

Quote from jinaland

Since 2nd gen kpop groups have started to chart on BB200, idol groups have started to star in Hollywood films even as a main role, kpop idols have started to be ranked in TIME Magazine's people who shaped the world, kpop groups have started to invited in European prestigious Universities such as Oxford for a lecture, has started to be mentioned in Guinness World Records for having the biggest fanclub, has started to chart in BB hot 100, has started have concert in US, has started to collaborate with popular western artists, mentioned by popular US artist during that times, started to be ranked in Forbes magazine's celebrity 100, mentioned by popular US news publications Washington Post, started to tour in UK,. Even former US President Obama has mentioned SHINee back then and said how young Americans are learning korean to listen SHINee's songs. Yet you gyus say they had no impact. It's not their fault that they are born in the time where internet & social media wasn't accessible. Western music critics have started to review kpop music.

But you gyus say your faves are popular thanks to BTS. My faves wouldn't even become kpop idol if 2nd gen haven't existed.

Theres a difference in LEVELs. Kpop pre-BTS was a tiny niche. And most of what you are naming can be said about jpop, about anything really. Its mostly 2nd gen media play. Look at the actual results on charts. Theres a big difference in charting in the 100s on BB200, with a declining trend and getting multiple #1s.

I am not even denying 2nd gen paved the way, a tiny tiny portion of it, less than 5%. Its just that its pretty insignificant compared to the rest of 95% BTS paved for others.