Posts by nochutae
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I never said they where underrated, they may have the biggest debut currently but boombayah only hit one billion in 2020 (it is a lot though, It shows the growth in the fandom). Also we are talking about western success right? In the western industry Blackpink kind of went unnoticed for a while but they managed to get it later.
for a while? like a little less than one year? they were already on BB bubbling under hot 100 with as if it's your last, they actually held the highest position for a kpop group overall until BTS released DNA and broke the record, they were not unnoticed.
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So Blackpink charting with zero promotion in the U.S is because of YG? Alright. But the reason why I included Blackpink is because YG barely gives them comebacks and it is annoying. The only thing keeping haters quiet is the album but we all know that is not going to last long. Also Bigbang did not perform at coachella and I believe CL did not perform there either.
P.S Coming from a big company does not force people stan a group. The people who stan, stan because they want to. Not only that, Blackpink did not have a big fanbase when they debuted.
P.P.S I think you know how much Blackjacks hated Blackpink and accused them of copying 2ne1 so a lot of Blackjacks don't even stan Blackpink. Also VIPs, not a lot of them stan Blackpink. And being from YG does not always give you a upper hand (if not a drawback). Look at Ikon and Winner.
The way you talk it's like they were underrated which they never were in any way, they may not have had a big fandom right off the bat but had a huge visibility for sure they debuted with a PAK on kcharts, they held the record for most viewed debut mv on youtube for quite some time too, there was a lot of hype and interest in them and it was mostly because of the legacy of yg in the industry if they debuted on idk pledis or cube they wouldn't get even 1/3 of the interest they got before they putted any music out. i think it's safe to say they had like the biggest debut for a kpop group ever.
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ON had two videos and had split reactions.
Black Swan would’ve definitely did 10x better if it was the promoted title track. The music video didn’t even come out until almost two months later!
Spring Day is BTS best performing song in Korea as far as longetivty yet only has 406M views.
yeah those are the other reasons it didn't perform as good as it could have, but about spring day i think the reason it doesn't have a lot of views compared to their other mvs is because i-fans are known for not liking ballads that much and it doesn't have choreography (it gives replay value to a mv) which is a shame because SD deserves to enter the 1 billion club, the MV is gorgeous.
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Nah, BTS cheerful colorful pop songs always do very well, their top 3 most viewed MVs on youtube all have this concept/sound (DNA,BWL and Dynamite) i suspect ON/BS/LGO didn't do as well (for BTS standards ofc) because these 3 songs are more mellow/dark and both fandom and gp seem to like their bright concepts more overall.
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Highly unlikely, BTS is an anomaly in the industry.
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I assume you mean people who talked about BTS releasing another English song so I will talk about that.
When BTS got big in the West in 2017 we had essay upon essay on how BTS has become westernized and how they had lost their identity for Western Validation.
Mind you, English versions or anything west related promo was fine until BTS tried it.
When the kpop industries saw what the west can actually help an artist achieve, a lot of artists started targeting the West and released English versions of English original songs.
So Armys used that to get revenge, and they used that a lot, against those fandoms and artists because the kpop community suddenly thought it wasn't Western Validation but a market full of opportunities.
A lot of Armys also said that BTS don't need to release English songs because they can be big without them and that they should change to fit in the Western industry. But when Dynamite was announced a lot of them suddenly changed their mind on that.
I think I should include myself in that crowd.
And now we are back in present.
To be honest, now I don't mind an English song because they did it way after they had become big in the US. It was the result of that success but the means used towards Western success. It might not seem like a lot different but I think it is.
Seeing how radio simply refuses to play their korean songs (LGO got a ridiculously low amount of radioplay compared to Dynamite) i really don't blame them for releasing more english songs now unfortunately that's the only way for them to get their songs to have a broader reach and more GP/non-kpop fans listening to them.
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Three reasons.
First, many of us are Americans not Japanese. Maybe if you visit a Japanese forum, you might find some folks who dont like when Kpop bands do Japanese songs, whether it's BTS or any other band.
Secondly, Japan and Korea are a lot closer culturally than Korea and the US. However frigid their political relations, the two countries are deeply intertwined.
Thirdly, the problem with Dynamite for me as a KA is that the boys pronunciation was so bad i literally couldnt understand the lyrics at times. I had to use subtitles. If youre going to sing an ALL ENGLISH SONG, it would be best if the English speaking audience could understand it. Contrast this with Ice Cream, i understood every word, or even Twice's English versions, most members have obvious accents but i can clearly make out every word.
I think how Kpop songs are mostly a mix of English and Korean is actually perfect. This is how many Koreans talk, mixing English and other foreign words with Korean, i literally grew up listening to my parents speak like that to me. This is part of Kpop's charm and addictiveness for me.
Maybe you just have a kinda bad hearing i mean... english is not my first language (my first language is portuguese) but i could understand everything they were saying since the first time i listened to dynamite without reading subtitles.
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... but when they release an english song then suddenly it's a huge problem, they are pandering to americans, they are selling out and losing their korean roots?
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it has the potential if the promo is good like dyna but it also depends on how catchy and how much the gp will like it.
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Japan is the biggest music market in the world, Big hit needs to take advantage of that. maybe a full japanese album!!!
Japan is the second biggest after the U.S. actually.
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Go Go and Anpanman are literally their most popular bsides ever lol
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Be ready for all the "they look like girls" comments from football fans if this does happen
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delusional blonk denying dynamite's national hit status because it's in english but if ice cream had the same numbers...
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