My problem with "bullying scandals"...

Quote from dummi

Cry me a river, I never said anything to hurt you. I only pointed out the fact that you're biased against Chuu. I was also a victim of bullying for 3 years and into high school as well, but you don't see me throwing shade @ your faves

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Quote from monalisalove

I'm against the "cancel culture". I just despise it, but I'm also against the "my faves are angels culture too" as you really defend some attitudes that you wouldn't if it happened with you or someone you know and love.

It's precisely because I don't take my faves for angels and saints that I don't hold them to an impossible standard of virtue. That's precisely for this reason that I can't accept that they lose their jobs over daily life stuff that everyone could have done at some point.

Quote from catzi

When you start to defend bullying for someone you never met, yes it is, plain and simple.

Define bullying because I feel like we gonna disagree. I cannot defend bullying if there is no actual bullying to begin with.

Quote from Alex_Murphy

Define bullying because I feel like we gonna disagree. I cannot defend bullying if there is no actual bullying to begin with.

bul·ly1

/ˈbo͝olē/

verb

gerund or present participle: bullying

seek to harm, intimidate, or coerce (someone perceived as vulnerable).

Quote from catzi

bul·ly1

/ˈbo͝olē/

verb

gerund or present participle: bullying

seek to harm, intimidate, or coerce (someone perceived as vulnerable).

What about this one:

School bullying

School bullying, like bullying outside the school context, refers to one or more perpetrators who have greater physical or social power than their victim and act aggressively toward their victim by verbal or physical means. This behavior is not a one-off episode; it must be repetitive and habitual to be considered bullying.

source: wikipedia

keywords: not an one-off episode; must be repetitive and habitual to be considered bullying.

Therefore, if the repetitive and habitual characteristic is not or cannot be demonstrated, it's not school bullying. One off instances are not school bullying. And it's been my whole point since day one.

Quote from monalisalove

And why you can't accept? Bc you love them blindly. Our love to our faves are blind. Look at me, I already fought here bc of the pinks so ??? Kkk it's ok to admit it, but let's not play the rational person when in situations like these you will look for your faves side first.

No I can't accept it because I think it's unfair. Because I think it's unjust. I wouldn't want it to happen a relative, I wouldn't it to happen to a friend, I wouldn't it happen to a close coworker, and ultimately I wouldn't want it to happen to me. Therefore I don't want it to happen to an artist I like.

Quote from monalisalove

Unfair to your idol or unfair to the allegedly victim?

Irrelevant. As you said yourself, two wrongs don't make a right. Even if the recollected stories happen to be true, I don't think it warrants for someone to lose their career over it. I don't think it's fair, I don't think it is just.

Quote from monalisalove

Bc it wasn't you who suffered.

To me the wrongs are who lied (victim or bully) and antis. The victim isn't wrong.

1/ You're running in circles.

2/ You're mistaking the meaning of "two wrong don't make a right".