There is no doubt aespa will reach 1 million in sale

    So, the albums sale boom in 2022 is so obvious, it is more than any year before.


    Looking at Nmixx, a rookie with 400k on hanteo. IVE Just comeback with 430k which almost double their first album on hanteo. Red velvet with 560k on hanteo is also double their last comeback. TxT also double thier Gaon number with 1.4 mil preorder on Gaon.


    So yes, given every group comeback in 2022 with double the sale, there is no doubt aespa sale will be at least sell 1.2 mil. I will not be suprise if they can reach 1.5 mil given their popularity has exploded since their last comeback.


    So, discuss.

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    There's actually nothing to really discuss lol Aespa will no doubt be a 1m seller next comeback (wouldn't be surprised if it's actually 2m tbh) kudos to them :pepe-cop:

    maybe them and twice

    but it will be whatever at that point

    I don't know...

    With the China bars I think it is possible. Karina, Ningning and Winter's Bars have blown up a lot, and even Giselle's Bar (although smaller) spends a lot of money like they did at Coachella. Winter C-Fans are very rich and want to double their contribution to beat KarinaBar. KarinaBar feels Karina is recently being mistreated by SM and want to make their sales go much higher to beat WinterBar.

    Ningning has a lot of smaller venues, and other C-bars buying albums along with her dedicated C-Bar since she's Chinese.


    K-fans (and very hopefully int fans too) will probably step it up seeing these new rookies (especially Lesserafirm) selling so much. Karina has super rich fans in Korea that bought tons of her magazine.


    I think they can do it. There's also this rivalry with CReveluvs, especially Irene-Bar which is very influential.


    Twice will hit it first though I think. That's why JYP is waiting a bit for a Korean comeback so they can hit it. IDK why they have a Japanese comeback first but hopefully it doesn't eat into sales.

    Nah, aespa will comeback first. There is no doubt they will reach 1 mil. The question is how far? I am guessing 1.5 mil is not off limit.

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    2 mil? Thats a bit much. Lol.

    It is Aespa after all. We all thought they would sell 50-200k max for Savage and they shocked everyone and same with everything else they do. I would not be surprised if they reached 2m :pepe-tinfoil-hat:

    Everyone just keeps doubling their numbers so it's more than possible. Album sales are becoming a bit irrelevant to determine the top groups tbh

    Coachella blew them up big time it was a huge investment for the girls and it paid off. Non stop talk about their Coachella vocals and that blonde girl lol I’m really curious how much they will sell next comeback. Their fans were already rich and now they’ve got more fans it will be interesting.

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    Coachella blew them up big time it was a huge investment for the girls and it paid off. Non stop talk about their Coachella vocals and that blonde girl lol I’m really curious how much they will sell next comeback. Their fans were already rich and now they’ve got more fans it will be interesting.

    They really didn’t go that viral outside of kpop, but kpop fans did talk a lot abt them.


    and ningning wasn’t even top 10 most mentioned ppl at Coachella, Giselle and karina was higher. The going viral thing was just a couple of tweets with barely envy engagement saying “hi is she?!?” Which isn’t going viral

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    They really didn’t go that viral outside of kpop, but kpop fans did talk a lot abt them.


    and ningning wasn’t even top 10 most mentioned ppl at Coachella, Giselle and karina was higher. The going viral thing was just a couple of tweets with barely envy engagement saying “hi is she?!?” Which isn’t going viral

    Naah 4 of my friends actually went to coachella so I got the real tea and they said people were loving them especially next level and savage vocals and people were talking about the blonde girl the most

    Y'all really love setting them up :pepe-peek:

    now sales are "irrelevant"? since 3 gen sales have been bigger don't downplay sales now I stick with the thought that sales are important but not a factor to determine who is "bigger" I would wait until claim Aespa as the leader GG of the 4th gen

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    Naah 4 of my friends actually went to coachella so I got the real tea and they said people were loving them especially next level and savage vocals and people were talking about the blonde girl the most

    Well that never translated away from that stage then because when you look at the data they didn’t go viral and ningning wasn’t the standout member popularity and virality wise in Coachella

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    Predict the predictable? I’m more interested in who would be the second 4th gen gg to reach 1m :whatr: ive? Nmixx? Itzy? The Hybe group? My moneys on the Hybe group or nmixx

    Easily Lesserafirm and Min Heejin new gg. Just because they have a lot of organized fanbase activity, and Sakura Bar in China/Sakura J-stans are powerful. Chaewon has a lot of selling power too.

    I think ITZY will blow up in physical sales, their fanbases have been saving up.

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    Well that never translated away from that stage then because when you look at the data they didn’t go viral and ningning wasn’t the standout member popularity and virality wise in Coachella

    You have to remember not everyone that goes tweets. The thing you’re talking about is based of tweets not actual discussion from people that were there, plus the connection service during coachella is awful so barely anyone would be able to use socials during the events. Social media doesn’t reflect reality I shouldn’t have to tell anyone this🤦🏻‍♀️

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    Well that never translated away from that stage then because when you look at the data they didn’t go viral and ningning wasn’t the standout member popularity and virality wise in Coachella

    The point wasn't to go viral with locals, it was to go viral with kpop stans. It's like Rose at the Met Gala, her look didn't make headlines for the "best look of the night" with locals but she was trending all on kpop twitter, blinks had huge hashtags...etc.


    And I think NN was internationally for sure. In fact so many people tweeted about her (that weren't Mys and didn't use the Coachella tags) that her searches doubled, and she trended in the world at #4 during peak hours.


    She didn't end up in the top 10 list because so many nonMys were tweeting about her and writing her names in different ways (Ning-Ning, Ning Ning, Ningx2, NN), but she in-person was the one with the loudest cheers at Coachella and internationally made the biggest splash.


    Her likes have also accelerated, on twitter/insta/facebook...etc.

    Winter was the clear (and only) winner in Korea. In the fandom the biggest winner was Giselle.


    The tide is turning though. Int stans who used to drag Aespa for everything are now seeing that some of the hate is pointless, especially towards Giselle's stage presence. They'll be the main target of the hate for a bit but it's getting better overseas.

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    They really didn’t go that viral outside of kpop, but kpop fans did talk a lot abt them.


    and ningning wasn’t even top 10 most mentioned ppl at Coachella, Giselle and karina was higher. The going viral thing was just a couple of tweets with barely envy engagement saying “hi is she?!?” Which isn’t going viral

    Dont go and base solely on that list. Some time stat can be wrong to interpret. It is a cummulate mention for 2 weeks. Lol. If you follow aespa then you know Ninging trend 4 worldwide. No other members in the Top 10. She also trended number 7 in thr U.S.


    Here the proofs. Knock urself out.

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    The highest engagement tweet for an individual from a GG in a while.

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    A thread with tons of engangment.

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    Need more?

    Perhaps a recent bubles post?

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    they will the first million seller gg and knowing SM they will mediaplay

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    You have to remember not everyone that goes tweets. The thing you’re talking about is based of tweets not actual discussion from people that were there, plus the connection service during coachella is awful so barely anyone would be able to use socials during the events. Social media doesn’t reflect reality I shouldn’t have to tell anyone this🤦🏻‍♀️

    Im not even talking about just tweet, YouTube google and all ningning was not the top member it was karina

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    Im not even talking about just tweet, YouTube google and all ningning was not the top member it was karina

    Nah, see my post. twitter is the best measurement during Coachella because it is real time activity we can see. Even today Ningning buble post generate more engagement than other members.

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    YG better give BP a comeback unless he wants them to lose their #1 gg spot. Aespa is already gaining a lead in Korea.

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    Im not even talking about just tweet, YouTube google and all ningning was not the top member it was karina

    Google will not ever have Ningning at the top, look at her name. It's spelled so many ways. In half the world it is Ning Ning. In Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, at the festival it was all her. She has the most liked Aespa post from Coachella. Youtube is for fancams or dedicated stans so there it would be Winter. I don't think Karina gained anything: just her fans but she already had a ton.

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    1.5M? 2M? You're so delusional. :cryingr:

    Yeah I really doubt 1.5M unless SM breaks out some sort of crazy packaging. I don't even know what they can come up with. Above 1M is a dream but maybe?



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    YG better give BP a comeback unless he wants them to lose their #1 gg spot. Aespa is already gaining a lead in Korea.

    Uh yeah no. Established groups will always have the lead. BP can take their sweet time and still break new records, only difference is that blinks will be mad. Their fanbases are very different from each other.

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    Im not even talking about just tweet, YouTube google and all ningning was not the top member it was karina

    It might because Karina is the most popular? I don’t stan aespa I’m just telling people what I was told about coachella. Karina engaged the most off camera but the crowd cheered the most for the blonde girl people just liked her

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    So yes, given every group comeback in 2022 with double the sale, there is no doubt aespa sale will be at least sell 1.2 mil. I will not be suprise if they can reach 1.5 mil given their popularity has exploded since their last comeback.

    1 million is plausible. However 1.2m or 1.5m are too delusional. Even txt haven't reached 1.5m, how could you think aespa could reached that? That is setting them up OP.

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    1 million is plausible. However 1.2m or 1.5m are too delusional. Even txt haven't reached 1.5m, how could you think aespa could reached that? That is setting them up OP.

    Oh. 1.2 mil is there for them. The best way to measure fans are engagments, especially on Twitter. Their likes and retweet are not behind popular boy groups like TXT, Straykids and NCT Dream. And activities from their chinabar. Aespa bars are moving like boygroups. I have no doubt 1.2 mil is doable. 1.5 mil is depend how aespa chinabar go all out.

    honestly I wouldn't overly depend on cbars - fundraising for albums has gotten trickier with ccp crackdowns and the recent covid lockdowns in china will also cause an economic and logistics ripple.

    C-bars were not affected by that crack down. If you stan sm groups you would know this already.

    :pepe-joy:


    They will sell 1m for sure.

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    honestly I wouldn't overly depend on cbars - fundraising for albums has gotten trickier with ccp crackdowns and the recent covid lockdowns in china will also cause an economic and logistics ripple.

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    Oh. 1.2 mil is there for them. The best way to measure fans are engagments, especially on Twitter. Their likes and retweet are not behind popular boy groups like TXT, Straykids and NCT Dream. And activities from their chinabar. Aespa bars are moving like boygroups. I have no doubt 1.2 mil is doable. 1.5 mil is depend how aespa chinabar go all out.

    Only winter and karina fanbases are on par with boygroups. 1,2m isn't guarantee yet, maybe if SM opens long preorder period and give them each member version.

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    They won't do it, they love money very much it's impossible to lower the price like JYP did. Also, SM ggs have more expensive album price than their bgs.

    If sm did 3 different versions like Savage or maybe 4 or 5 and made only 1 of them cheap like NMIXX albums . They can make money on the other albums while increasing numbers sales with the cheap 1.

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    Only winter and karina fanbases are on par with boygroups. 1,2m isn't guarantee yet, maybe if SM opens long preorder period and give them each member version.

    Ningning has a bigger Cbar than Winter in terms of dedicated fans. A lot of small time vendors carry her too. she sold the 2nd most albums for Savage in China, but a lot of her sales came from independent Chinese carriers and not her C-Bar only like WinRina. Her profile in China has grown a lot with Savage + her lighter hair too.

    She's not top-boygroup powerful like WinRina especially since WinRina have tons of fans in Korea that buy a lot but with the hate she's getting in Korea, it's possible her CBar steps up and buys more albums. They also cut down on Coachella promotions for her so they could save for the album. So..like middle-tier boygroup?


    I think it depends on if the marketing + the song is good. Hopefully way more than 1 song but the title track will really matter for casual fans to buy the album and push them over the 1 million edge. More casual-type Kfans would buy the album much faster if the song is good. They also need Karina fans to not boycott this release so hopefully she gets enough good teasers for them to buy it. An each member version would probably accomplish 1M sales faster (as WinterBar & KarinaBar are always fighting, and NingningBar wants SM to give her more opps) but I feel like Giselle would be done dirty.


    Each member version would make things tricky but I think SM will do 3-4 versions and 1 version cheaper where the other ones have expensive stuff like the POS portal with Savage to Kwangya and the cheaper one has a better set of photos but none of the flashy perks. SM doesn't usually but to break 1M with a gg is a huge feat and no doubt SM will attempt to break it.

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    They won't do it, they love money very much it's impossible to lower the price like JYP did. Also, SM ggs have more expensive album price than their bgs.

    They also like bragging about achievements, they'll do it (at least for 1 version) and give better photocards.

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