Could be both.
Could be both.
I am curious also.
Yes, I like Twice.
Could be both.
I mean, this is K-pop:
But it's the same group.
Same nationalities etc. Same languages.
But they sing in English.
kpop because of the artist
like bunny said, it could be both. how about an english kpop song?
Display MoreI mean, this is K-pop:
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But it's the same group.
Same nationalities etc. Same languages.
But they sing in English.
Hmm it seems that English releases from Kpop groups are still considered kpop since they are from Korean artists.
But English songs like this are aimed for a more international audience.
So to me, I guess there's some overlap.
Actually if the reverse happened where a western artist released a Korean song, I have a feeling most kpop fans would be reluctant to consider it kpop despite the song being Korean and aimed for a Korean audience since most care about the point of origin.
I guess Kaachi could be an example of that. I don't really pay attention to them, but the discourse around them in regards to whether they are kpop or not seems... polarizing. A lot don't want to think of them as kpop based on what I remember seeing.
Yeah I don't have a straight answer, I'm just musing on what I believe the general feelings might be. I think there is overlap though.
Good question.
It could be kpop because they're Twice. While it also can be pop because it's in english.
It's TWICEpop.
I mean, yeah that could work.
But people are saying that it's not Kpop if it's in English.
We had the same debate with other groups.
i asked a similar question a while ago, and people said it depended on who the song belongs to, for exaple, ps5 by salem ilese and txt isn't kpop because its her song, but who do u love by monsta x is kpop because it features french montana, and isn't his song. i think it works the same way for this scenario. its kpop because of the artist.
TWICEpop™
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Display MoreHmm it seems that English releases from Kpop groups are still considered kpop since they are from Korean artists.
But English songs like this are aimed for a more international audience.
So to me, I guess there's some overlap.
Actually if the reverse happened where a western artist released a Korean song, I have a feeling most kpop fans would be reluctant to consider it kpop despite the song being Korean and aimed for a Korean audience since most care about the point of origin.
I guess Kaachi could be an example of that. I don't really pay attention to them, but the discourse around them in regards to whether they are kpop or not seems... polarizing. A lot don't want to think of them as kpop based on what I remember seeing.
Yeah I don't have a straight answer, I'm just musing on what I believe the general feelings might be. I think there is overlap though.
Oh, on the topic of Kaachi I could expand for days.
I always took them at face value and listened to their music.
Didn't really care if they are K-pop or English pop or whatever.
I always said, their first 2 songs were crap, third one was actually good.
But to me it wasn't K-pop. Even if it was by a korean producer and so on.
That's why I am like on the fence?
Twice is twice. They are a powerhouse on their own.
They sell out stadiums and domes and whatnot.
But to me that song is not K-pop.
Even tho that song is Twice.
I personally still consider songs that are sung in English Kpop if the artist is a known kpop artist.
Ateez Sings in english i still call it kpop
if seventeen sings in english i stil call it kpop
Mark Tuan is releasing solo music clearly in english because he's american
and i still call it kpop. He's a member of GOT7 known for Kpop music so i automatically group his music with where i know him from and consider it KPOP
Up10tion released 3 songs in Japanese and I still call them KPOP
For a longer answer...
The reason that kpop can be hard to categorize is that much like the word "anime" it's often used in the West as a designation more so than a genre. Just as anime can bring to mind a very specific style and genre elements, kpop can bring to mind a very specific sound and look, but whereas anime's narrow definition tends to leave people going "wait that's an anime?!" kpop is more broad so you get artists like IU or Epik High lumped in with idol groups on western kpop lists just because they're singing in Korean.
There are similar terms in music, but they just don't get used a lot. For instance "Brit Rock" covers everything from The Beatles and Coldplay to Elton John and the Sex Pistols. It's just that we don't use this term a lot and tend to group these bands with their more accurate rock genres like punk, progressive, glam, etc.
Could be both especially with the English lyrics.
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