Twice won the battle but it looks like Red velvet is winning the war?

  • How are they doing this well in their 8th year compared to Twice in their 7th year? what's going on?

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  • korean charts aren't everything

  • Twice is selling better and their charting is similar.


    Not sure why people pretend Twice's digitals are bad. AF and Queendom did about the same

  • Twice are smashing them on YT, Apple, Spotify, Sales, Japan, touring and by a landslide.


    Lmao.

  • red velvet - great korea charting and highest spotify treams in SM

    twice - great global spotify, record breaking tour in the US, hot 100 in US and billboard and 2nd highest sales


    3rd gen GGs legacy is longevity

  • Here's a thought, let's not.

    There is no battle, there is no war. If you want to talk war, let's talk Ukraine, that's what real war with real victims and suffering looks like.


    Let's not pitch successful groups against eachother, it'll only give antis another excuse to yet again shade groups they hate or are jealous of, and feed unneccessary flamewarring and fanwarring.


    TWICE have been doing well internationally outside of Korea, and Red Velvet are currently doing well in Korea.

    So it's basically the Top 3 girl groups of the 3rd gen still killing it 7-8 years after their debut.

  • Talent. Red velvet's talent shines through. If Twice had half the talent nmixx has they would be in a different situation.. :eyes:

  • TWICE is selling almost 900k albums, selling out stadiums and arenas. Their digitals aren't even that bad too.

    They are still very strong.

  • People who treat K-Pop like a competition need to go outside and touch grass. Imagine using someone elses achievement to shit on someone else.

  • Twice is selling better and their charting is similar.


    Not sure why people pretend Twice's digitals are bad. AF and Queendom did about the same

    Queendom had much longer longevity in charts than alcohol free on similar time frames.


    And if we compared last year's CBs scientist was Twice latest CB, that was a massive flop. So massive that onces seem to side step it ever existing. I wonder why.

  • yes, you're right, TWICE won the battle and RV is winning the war. woohoo, let's go TWICE!

  • i guess you guys are really pressed by twice huh

  • So RV will sell near 900k, tour the US with 7 sold out arenas, 2 sold out KSPO Domes, 3 sold out Tokyo Domes, 110+ days on Spotify, 60+ on Apple music. 250m views on YT in 6 months? Woop can't wait.

  • So RV will sell near 900k, tour the US with 7 sold out arenas, 2 sold out KSPO Domes, 3 sold out Tokyo Domes, 110+ days on Spotify, 60+ on Apple music. 250m views on YT in 6 months? Woop can't wait.

    come again when TWICE performs in NORTH KOREA!

  • So RV will sell near 900k, tour the US with 7 sold out arenas, 2 sold out KSPO Domes, 3 sold out Tokyo Domes, 110+ days on Spotify, 60+ on Apple music. 250m views on YT in 6 months? Woop can't wait.

    Donald Trump was voted in as US president.


    The Pussycat dolls sold 54 million albums world wide.


    There are plenty of people around the world with poor taste.

  • Donald Trump was voted in as US president.


    The Pussycat dolls sold 54 million albums world wide.


    There are plenty of people around the world with poor taste.

    The Pussycat Dolls had some bops though.

  • Donald Trump was voted in as US president.


    The Pussycat dolls sold 54 million albums world wide.


    There are plenty of people around the world with poor taste.

    and that must be why Red Velvet play it rec' centers and bingo halls or need 6 moths of China money collection to stop being outsold by 4th genners.


    Come at Twice while your faves cant even sell out big tours, play to 50k audiences in a single night, show any longevity on global charts, flopped in Japan, now BB200 or Hot100 or get half decent YouTube views these days.


    You're right, it must be people and their bad taste right? That the same bad taste that got FOL the highest review score on Metacritic for a Kpop album? While RVs last offering just got 3 stats from NME? Lol.

  • Twice is selling better and their charting is similar.


    Not sure why people pretend Twice's digitals are bad. AF and Queendom did about the same

    It is bad, compared with other groups. There's no pretending required for it.


    Queendom did slightly better than Alcohol-Free, and you're basically comparing RV's worst performing song of their last 3 comebacks with TWICE's best performing song in the same period of time. That already says it all.


    TWICE still have their other things they still do well in, but when it comes to their Korean digitals, there's no pretending about it, they're just bad or mediocre.

  • It is bad, compared with other groups. There's no pretending required for it.


    Queendom did slightly better than Alcohol-Free, and you're basically comparing RV's worst performing song of their last 3 comebacks with TWICE's best performing song in the same period of time. That already says it all.


    TWICE still have their other things they still do well in, but when it comes to their Korean digitals, there's no pretending about it, they're just bad or mediocre.

    Yeah and RV fans want to make it about that? Why not talk about their complete abysmal global charting? Quendom's terrible Spotify streams, bad showing on Apple music? The fact that both Queendom and now Feel My Rhythm have done terrible on Youtube? Their touring being poor?

    No one wants to make this conversation about anything but Melon and I wonder why?

  • Yeah and RV fans want to make it about that? Why not talk about their complete abysmal global charting? Quendom's terrible Spotify streams, bad showing on Apple music? The fact that both Queendom and now Feel My Rhythm have done terrible on Youtube? Their touring being poor?

    No one wants to make this conversation about anything but Melon and I wonder why?

    LMAO so triggered.


    Let's talk about Twice's ability to sing.


    crickets.............

  • LMAO so triggered.


    Let's talk about Twice's ability to sing.


    crickets.............

    So typical Luvie response?


    Talk shit about another groups performance in certain area's and get called out about all the other area's RV tank in so move onto the predictable 'your faves can't sing'


    And pretend others are triggered?

  • Quickie update for ya'll, Fel My Rythm already departs Apple Music global charts after spending 3 days in it. It's a new record for RV ;(

  • Why are antis and some Once doing their utmost to bash RV all the time?

    And why are some Reveluv feeding them in their toxicity?



    Stop giving trolls what they want.

  • LMAO so triggered.


    Let's talk about Twice's ability to sing.


    crickets.............

    Seulgi and Wendy are carrying RV anyway vocally and rv has literally some of the worst stage presence ever, seeing them perform is a snoozefest and I am not a Once

  • So typical Luvie response?


    Talk shit about another groups performance in certain area's and get called out about all the other area's RV tank in so move onto the predictable 'your faves can't sing'


    And pretend others are triggered?

    You are triggered LMAO.


    Guess I hit a sore spot. Twice have declined ever since their terrible encores.


    Seulgi and Wendy are carrying RV anyway vocally and rv has literally some of the worst stage presence ever, seeing them perform is a snoozefest and I am not a Once


    Name another girl group not called Mamamoo or Aespa that's as vocally solid through as RV. Let's not pretend their worst vocalist can outsing more than half of Twice.

  • Name another girl group not called Mamamoo or Aespa that's as vocally solid through as RV. Let's not pretend their worst vocalist can outsing more than half of Twice.

    Not you putting manamoo with rv when 3/4th of mmm are solid singers and just because twice aren't the strongest vocally doesn't mean they are untalented plus twice are much more well rounded than rv ever will be and actually has stage presence something that can't be said about rv. Also typical reveluv response when the thread was talking about achievements and stats which twice washes rv anytime.

  • A tanked Twice outsold, out toured, out stream, outview RV. Oops.


    Shouldn't you worry about your girls getting dragged back into another controversy for abusing staff again today lol.

  • I'll be back next week to update the tanked YT views and wave RV off as they depart the Spotify charts too.

  • Isn't it funny how TWICE stans are now randomly bringing in global stats when a few years ago they would preach about how Korean stats are the most important & stuff similar to that when they were arguing with Blinks? Funny how the narrative changes depending on which metric your faves do better in :cryingr:

  • Not you putting manamoo with rv when 3/4th of mmm are solid singers and just because twice aren't the strongest vocally doesn't mean they are untalented plus twice are much more well rounded than rv ever will be and actually has stage presence something that can't be said about rv. Also typical reveluv response when the thread was talking about achievements and stats which twice washes rv anytime.

    By anyone who isn't an anti or prejudiced, jealous stan of other groups it's known and admitted that Red Velvet are one of the top vocal groups in K-pop.

    The whole stage presence is also an anti narrative and as fake as other anti narratives like that SNSD were talentless or that Blackpink were lazy etc, when even professional dancers praised RV's dance and performance talent at concerts and other stages.


    This whole discussion where fans and antis of both TWICE and RV are trying to outdo themselves bashing both groups is distasteful asf.


    OP's topic has been answered multiple times, at this point it's just everyone jumping on the hate train to bash both groups.

  • It's time for everyone to stop with their shit and nonstop trying to pitch successful girl groups against eachother and bash them to oblivion just to get their kicks in.


    Is it that hard to have multiple groups being successful each in their own areas and each with their own strengths, and acknowledge them for it and praise them for it, even if they aren't your bias?

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