What did happen?
mediaplay on another level
well
this is embarassing
if they did it with bp, obviously they would do it with the lessers
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What happened? What we all knew - they lied.
why would their album sales be listed in a US album chart when they are not selling at any Major US retailer?
If there was any kpop store within 50 miles near me, it would save me over $100 in shipping to get them here from Korea. I didn’t get a chance to buy their first album, I’m prob not the only one so I’m sure their sales did jump here
That’s strange if they’re nobody here in the US b/c if they are nobody here in the US, their first album over a year in iTunes still in top 40 albums chart, right with Stray kids, Ateez, TXT
I wouldn’t solely judge Spotify as a metrics of everything
I don’t even know any family/friends that use Spotify when we’re on Apple Music with our iPhones and Amazon Music with Prime
U guys seem insecure, they’re getting known lol
What does this have to do with Spotify? This is about physical album sales. YG claimed that treasure already sold 700k and 20%, aka 140k albums, of it were from the US. Logically speaking, they should chart, and high in the US physical album chart, but they didn't.
as the user advice said, treasurer's assign aren't sold in any major US outlet so it won't be in BB.
Well, it's your fault for taking the ratio so seriously in the first place. 
Ok disregard Spotify. But since someone said Treasure were nobodies, my reply was to that, base on what… don’t say low Spotify streams lol
Other than NY, Cali, hardly any kpop stores around here. So when? … in transit, do these albums I bought get a chance to be scanned and track in this “US album tracking system” when it goes from Korea directly to my doorstep? So obv they traced into this US chart
That’s great they keep talking about treasure lol, geez got me to check treasure out last year see what this was all about lol
Ok disregard Spotify. But since someone said Treasure were nobodies, my reply was to that, base on what… don’t say low Spotify streams lol
Other than NY, Cali, hardly any kpop stores around here. So when? … in transit, do these albums I bought get a chance to be scanned and track in this “US album tracking system” when it goes from Korea directly to my doorstep? So obv they traced into this US chart
That’s great they keep talking about treasure lol, geez got me to check treasure out last year see what this was all about lol
It's nice seeing you ignore the part where YG literally lied about treasure selling 140k in the US and proceed to write a bunch of nonsense.
Physical sales bought via sites like ktown4u do not reflect on US charts though, even if they really sold as many as YG claimed they did they still wouldn't be charting on BB200. I'm pretty sure the few groups that managed to chart on BB200 without official US labels did it because of itunes sales & streams, not physical sales.
Given YG's history it could be mediaplay yes, however it's the kind of mediplay that no one can prove or disprove. In other words, people can choose their own narrative to whether believe them or not.
U all are talking just as much nonsense
It seems unimaginable to u guys that they picked up new fans that wants to collect their albums, I’m sure I’m not the only new fan that’s helping increase album sales here
Physical sales bought via sites like ktown4u do not reflect on US charts though, even if they really sold as many as YG claimed they did they still wouldn't be charting on BB200. I'm pretty sure the few groups that managed to chart on BB200 without official US labels did it because of itunes sales & streams, not physical sales.
Given YG's history it could be mediaplay yes, however it's the kind of mediplay that no one can prove or disprove. In other words, people can choose their own narrative to whether believe them or not.
BB200 is about physical album sales not streams
U all are talking just as much nonsense
It seems unimaginable to u guys that they picked up new fans that wants to collect their albums, I’m sure I’m not the only new fan that’s helping increase album sales here
Is it that difficult to understand that albums bought in the US MUST show up on US physical album charts? 140k is a big number, if it was real then it must show on charts, there's no other way around it.
Now if YG counted all orders through ktown4u as US sales, that's a different story all together. There's literally no way to guarantee all those preorders went to US fans. This has nothing to do with people disbelieving treasure's ability to gain new fans, this is about simple math not adding up. So it seems to me like you're the one playing obtuse and pretending you don't see the clear discrepancy.
I wouldn’t solely judge Spotify as a metrics of everything
I don’t even know any family/friends that use Spotify when we’re on Apple Music with our iPhones and Amazon Music with Prime
U guys seem insecure, they’re getting known lol
just because the bubble around you doesn't use Spotify doesn't mean the rest of the country don't use it too, and yes Spotify is a metric when it's the most used music streaming service in the world
I think you all are lost about BB200 but yes, streams and digital downloads do count too. BB200 doesn't work like Hanteo, Gaon or Oricon that only count physical sales.
Q: What does “Billboard 200” mean ?
A: The Billboard 200 is a chart that ranks the best performing albums in the US each week, combining pure sales, TEA and SEA.
Q: What are TEA, SEA and SPS?
A: TEA means track equivalent albums. TEA is calculated by adding up all of the song sales from an album and dividing by 10. Thus, 10 song downloads from the same album is equivalent to 1 album unit.
SEA means streaming equivalent albums. SEA is calculated by adding up all of the audio song streams from an album. Premium streaming totals are divided by 1,250 and free streaming totals are divided by 3,750. Thus, 1,250 premium streams or 3,750 free streams from the same album is equivalent to 1 album unit.
SPS means sales plus streaming. It is a common way to express ‘units’ (pure, TEA and SEA all together).
BB200 is about physical album sales not streams
omg are you serious? bb 200 counts streaming and digital track sales too
BB200 is about physical album sales not streams
this is not true. BB200 counts physical album sales + digital album sales + streaming equivalent album sales + track equivalent album sales --> all this together is the units/sales that the album has sold. so they take the streams and convert them with a specific formula (weighing paid and non-paid differently) and add them to the rest (they do the same for track equivalent sales), and the physical + digital album sales.. the digital in this is for example buying the album on itunes. that will be counted as a pure sale alongside the physicals.
digital pure sales are one of the main reasons kpop acts pre 2018 (ie before western distrubtion was common) managed to chart on BB200. BTS managed to chart in 2016 at #26 without any physical sales which means it was based on their digital + TEA + SEA units. Same with LY: Her in 2017 at #7 (physicals were only shipped a week later).
so basically BB200 is not just physicals and people do chart without distrubtion (examples are most of the groups pre 2018 that charted like bigbang,2ne1,girls genereation,EXO, BTS)
omg are you serious? bb 200 counts streaming and digital track sales too
YG claimed that Treasure's album sold 140k in the US less than a week after its release, there wasn't enough time for streams to make any significant contribution. so it is safe to asume they were talking about pure sales. in fact it is illogical to think otherwise.
BB200 is about physical album sales not streams
You must be talking about a different chart then because BB200 counts everything.It says at their official website :
The Billboard 200 chart ranks the most popular albums of the week in the U.S. based on multi-metric consumption as measured in equivalent album units, compiled by MRC Data. Units comprise album sales, track equivalent albums (TEA) and streaming equivalent albums (SEA).
So to summarize all of above post, treasure still flop in US despite YG saying their 20% sales comes from US cause:
1. They don't appear on bb200?
2. Even if their US sales comes from ktown4u, there's no guarantee that all those preorders went to US fans. Thus yg shouldn't mediaplay about 20% us sales in the first place?
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So to summarize all of above post, treasure still flop in US despite YG saying their 20% sales comes from US cause:
1. They don't appear on bb200?
2. Even if their US sales comes from ktown4u, there's no guarantee that all those preorders went to US fans. Thus yg shouldn't mediaplay about 20% us sales in the first place?
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Yes, treasure are SUPER NUGUS !!! That's why people keep on making threads about them !
Don't waste your time on them, I'm sure your nugu faves need some boost to get people talk about them too 
but be sure to make a thread in anons ! So that only good things can be said about them 
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