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This and some fandoms are a lot more organized than others when it comes to things like voting and streaming.
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It is wrong to compare 3rd gen groups spotify streams to 4th gen groups. 90% kpop songs weren't even avaipable on spotift till 2017. 4th gen groups are ripping the benefits of debuting during the time of bts making kpop lot more popular. Your faves would be nowhere if kpop wasn't this global as now it is because of bts. Be happy with it rather than taking dig at other's faves. Your faves are doing bare minimum. If not for spotify stats your faves are doing worse than 3rd gen groups.
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They're a flop in every streaming platforms. Fans hate to admit that no one but obsessed fans enjoy their music. Fans can buys million of photocards but they can't stand listening through their songs. Streaming is listening to the music . Spotify or Melon or the others are platforms to listen to music and that numbers reflect the music consumption. Now you get the answer.
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Their older music is better. Fans and kpop fans realised that so they stream older songs more. This is only my personal opinion though.
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They're a flop in every streaming platforms. Fans hate to admit that no one but obsessed fans enjoy their music. Fans can buys million of photocards but they can't stand listening through their songs. Streaming is listening to the music . Spotify or Melon or the others are platforms to listen to music and that numbers reflect the music consumption. Now you get the answer.
NCT 127 alone has over a billion streams on Spotify. Guess those are imaginary.
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It is wrong to compare 3rd gen groups spotify streams to 4th gen groups. 90% kpop songs weren't even avaipable on spotift till 2017. 4th gen groups are ripping the benefits of debuting during the time of bts making kpop lot more popular. Your faves would be nowhere if kpop wasn't this global as now it is because of bts. Be happy with it rather than taking dig at other's faves. Your faves are doing bare minimum. If not for spotify stats your faves are doing worse than 3rd gen groups.
Can people stop dragging these groups?
It isn't even their fans who drag nct using them as token even on main section, its another fandom
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there is just general lack of casual listeners
deal with it
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They're a flop in every streaming platforms. Fans hate to admit that no one but obsessed fans enjoy their music. Fans can buys million of photocards but they can't stand listening through their songs. Streaming is listening to the music . Spotify or Melon or the others are platforms to listen to music and that numbers reflect the music consumption. Now you get the answer.
then explain to us how NCT 127 alone have 1.3 billion streams in spotify
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Aren't people ever going to get tired of dragging nct with streaming and stuff. I'm a bts fan and I think dna was bts' first song to hit 100 million on spotify. So what, they were nuga before that. No, they had hits like blood, sweat, and tears, fire, i need u, etc. Spotify is a metric used in the west which is why their american breakout song, dna, hit 100 million. I think nct's main fanbase is concentrated more in asia (not sure so please don't drag me). Also comparing 4th gen stats to 3rd gen stats is ridiculous. Like you said en and skz both had a song with 100 million streams. Does that mean they are as popular as 2017 bts. No. I'm not saying nct are the biggest group or even second biggest, but this is just reaching. Their fandom is more into buying albums which at the end of the day make more money for the artists. I doubt anyone would prefer streams to actually physical albums sold. Many artists talk about how streams don't equate to a lot of money. Artists make more money from buying the song or album either digitally or physically.
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That’s a very stupid metric to compare when BTS was still the most streamed kpop act on Spotify even at that point.
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The answer is easy.
1. Spotify only recently was launched in other countries.
2. Their albums weren't available in spotify for awhile too. Only on Apple Music.
I remember trying to listen to cherry bomb on spotify and it wasn't there. If cherry bomb was released in the last 2 years then the song would've reached 100M streams faster for example.
It's so pointless to compare 4th gen stats with 3rd gen stats. The way people consumed music back then was different compared to now.
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Let me put some context for this:
the amount of kpop songs with 100M streams
When BTS hit 100M streams with DNA in late 2017/early 2018 - 1 kpop song (0 kpop group songs)
the amount of kpop songs with 100M streams now: 172 kpop songs (most are kpop group songs)
1. Gangnam Style was the only song before DNA to hit 100M and no kpop group had hit the mark yet.
2. DNA was the first ever kpop group song to hit the milestone.
3. They also did it when Spotify's userbase was also less than half of what it is now.
also it was actually less than 5 years, they had not celebrated their 5th anniversary when it passed it, not to mention they didn't have spotify till 1 year after debut... meaning they hit 100M within in less than 4 years of having a spotify account. Again all while kpop's popularity globally was much lower than it is now and spotify's userbase was half the size.
So using BTS taking 5 years and not including context is so stupid cause of the growth of spotify and kpop as a whole.
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