I'm amazed at how polar opposite Aespa and I've debuts are

previously i thought you're entering kep1er era but you might actually enter your ive era now?

anyway success come to different people at different rate and time. Aespa might be mocked at debut but i'm glad they've come so far and prove themselves

Abs who is your IVE bias?

the later the group debuts the more the successful they are getting these days, only in the long run we know who will be where

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The top 2 fourth gen ggs

Aespa - floppity flop debut, barely cracking melon top 80, other charts equally floppity, no sales whatsoever, one show win, mediocre spotify

I've - total opposite

WHO will prevail? I've so far is on track to overthrow aespa

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Sm girl groups have the same pattern, Into the new world, Happiness and Black mamba but look after their next few comebacks

On the other hands, look at those who had successful debut (u know who they are) and look at their next few comeback

Thank goodness they called Naevis. They were able to recover from their floppity floppity black mamba

more seulgi?

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Thank goodness they called Naevis. They were able to recover from their floppity floppity black mamba

naevis was sacrificed for their success

thanks, you're helping me get more akorns for supertuna badge

Can we leave the IVE and Aespa comparisons and let IVE breathe The girls are doing impressive that’s all that matters now :shyy: