Why do people bash JYP when his songs for Itzy and Twice are successful?

    Both Alcohol Free and MITM did better in Korea compared to Loco and Scientist, but why do people say JYP should stop composing for Itzy and Twice? Should he go back to writing songs for them?

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    for me I prefer Galactika produced songs better than JYP songs, Wannabe is Itzy's best song

    That is the problem. He doesnt let his artists show their creativity. I mean not every artist needs time to prove themselves. Not every artist blow up with their first song.Like look at stray kids.They produce themselves. It took them some time but now look where they are. Jyp doesnot like risks.

    That is the problem. He doesnot let his artists show their creativity. Every artist needs time and chances to prove themselves. Not every artist blows up with their first song they produce. Jyp doesnot like taking risks . For example, stray kids.It took them some time but now look where they are now. One of best 4th gen boygroup.

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    That is the problem. He doesnt let his artists show their creativity. I mean not every artist needs time to prove themselves. Not every artist blow up with their first song.Like look at stray kids.They produce themselves. It took them some time but now look where they are. Jyp doesnot like risks.

    That's a terrible example as skz are mia on every ww chart, itzy & twice do miles better

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    this is the only reason needed.


    OP did it convert u? do u understand now?!?!?!?!?

    JYP was always used as a excuse if the songs underperformed or flopped. JYP is a good producer.

    Especially since Alcohol-Free is the best Twice bop this year

    JYP is more popular than all of his groups in korea. That's why most of his songs do great in korea. When we disco and switch to me are bigger than any twice or itzy or stray kids songs in korea.. These stans cannot handle the truth. He is the biggest reason behind all of jyp group's success. He does more for his groups than the groups themselves.

    People don't have anything better to do, I guess.

    I’m not a success stan.

    He's not the CEO of the company yet gets blamed for every little thing attatched to JYP Entertainment


    But...

    Like him or not, many people can agree that he's cringe, they find his little flair (whispering "JYP") into his songs annoying and they dislike the criticism he gives in his survival shows (ie. SIXTEEN)

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    Even "mia on every ww chart", what is expected since they don't have international distribution, they are selling 2x more than the second best seller in the agency, so they will be okay.

    Yeah, being respectful tho, it's different for girl groups. It's nearly impossible for a gg to grow in popularity and fandom size without good, known songs.


    Boy Groups can put out songs that don't do well on any platform or outside of their fansom. TXT, Ateez, Enhypen, Seventeen(sans Aju Nice), NCT and Stray Kids(San God's Menu) have never had any songs make noise or get a bit of attention and yet all do amazingly well in sales and will do huge tours too.


    If a GG puts out a song that can't stay in the Melon top 1000 for a very long time we end up with groups like Gugudan, Everglow, Lovelyz, Elris, etc and they can't even get a fandom 1% the size of bgs.


    So I understand why JYPE, YG, SM don't take as many risk with girls groups since hit songs, esp early on in their careers, are almost essential to growing fandoms and thus selling and touring well.

    I agree with you, don't worry. It was not my intention to be mean or say that they should pull off Stray Kids' style of music or take the same risks. I'm aware both boygroups and girlgroups appeal to different demographies.


    I answered this, because I didn't like how the person I quoted dragged Stray Kids for their charting as If It matters when they are selling millions.

    Not you mentioning gods menu only when nct has kick it, boss and even hot sauce, songs that have much more success and relevancy in Korea and are also known by ifans. If your only metric is Spotify and YouTube then you should have mentioned txt and enhypen songs. They all are equals.


    And lovelyz presence on korean charts is much bigger than anything stray kids (or the other 4th gen bgs you mentioned) have done in their career. Even their last song charted higher on melon despite bgs fandoms making funds and donations to help them.

    Don't speak about success if you don't know the facts. Lovelyz failed not because of unpopular music but because of a shitty company.

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