WHO WILL WIN SOTY AND AOTY NOW THAT FAN MANIPULATION IS OUT?

Butter will win. No doubt about that.

iu or nl

bts, I think. they have all criteria met.

iu or bts?

or else it would have been rigged...

Butter and BTS will still win. Army is making a fuss over nothing.

the question why this award shows are still held when we know who's going to win like it's the same people each year that take the same awards

Would have said Next Level but I just read they changed from Gaon to Gaon + Apple Music Global for the digitals so probably still Butter

Won't change a thing, groups who win are gonna be the groups MAMA wants them to win

Its rigged and attendance based and EVERYONE knows that and yet - fans rave about it the most

BTS

do you think without fan voting award shows would be fair?

Next Level or most likely Celebrity should have won, but they changed the criteria and it's seem evidently see through it was to exclusively benefit BTS.

Butter. No question, even though it's undeserved.

BTS

Not @ hybe stans in the replies acting like if any sm artist win any award then it must be rigged. As if several sm groups didn't have an amazing year. I hate these dumbasses and their relentless stupid narratives.

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Next Level or most likely Celebrity should have won, but they changed the criteria and it's seem evidently see through it was to exclusively benefit BTS.

Butter. No question, even though it's undeserved.

The only artist that will benefit from this is BTS so I don't understand why hybe stans are insisting this is SM's machinations.

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Won't change a thing, groups who win are gonna be the groups MAMA wants them to win

Its rigged and attendance based and EVERYONE knows that and yet - fans rave about it the most

We all know its rigged but since past couple of year BTS is getting their well deserved daesangs never once they robbed some other act who deserved it that's why we never made a fuss over it but groups like BP, snsd and ikon have right to hate them since they've been robbed by mnet in 2018 i guess?

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The only artist that will benefit from this is BTS so I don't understand why hybe stans are insisting this is SM's machinations.

This new criteria screams " we're sick of BTs's daesang sweep but we cannot do anything about it since their numbers are huge so lets make it less transparent" BTS' numbers are huge, better than any other act they'd have won it anyway but its not the same case with sm acts.

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Not @ hybe stans in the replies acting like if any sm artist win any award then it must be rigged. As if several sm groups didn't have an amazing year. I hate these dumbasses and their relentless stupid narratives.

Ha? It's the other way around all along.

anyhow, it's still BTS

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This new criteria screams " we're sick of BTs's daesang sweep but we cannot do anything about it since their numbers are huge so lets make it less transparent" BTS' numbers are huge, better than any other act they'd have won it anyway but its not the same case with sm acts.

Well BTS don't have the charts and sales for SOTY this year so if the judges picked Celebrity or Next Level then BTS wouldn't win so...

it's still bts but soty might be given to NL

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This new criteria screams " we're sick of BTs's daesang sweep but we cannot do anything about it since their numbers are huge so lets make it less transparent" BTS' numbers are huge, better than any other act they'd have won it anyway but its not the same case with sm acts.

The new criteria includes international digital charts which only benefits bts but I guess there's no end to you all victim complex.

Next Level did better than any bts song in korea this year and even speaking of numbers alone, albums like sticker, attaca and hot sauce do stand a chance to win daesangs fair and square. You all want to call rigging prematurely just to discredit these artists whose potential wins are going to be deserved and fair.

Either BTS, IU or aespa

Ok so I responded to SOTY, but can anyone tell me whether AOTY means album of the year or artist of the year?

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Would have said Next Level but I just read they changed from Gaon to Gaon + Apple Music Global for the digitals so probably still Butter

Woah bts then.They removed the fan voting and armys thought it will benefit sm acts or iu but it'll still benefit bts because of the international digitals.

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We all know its rigged but since past couple of year BTS is getting their well deserved daesangs never once they robbed some other act who deserved it that's why we never made a fuss over it but groups like BP, snsd and ikon have right to hate them since they've been robbed by mnet in 2018 i guess?

2017. With signal win SOTY while RR and RF lose.

ArtistOTY - BTS

SOTY - NL or Celebrity

AOTY - Nct

imo nominations should be based on charting/sales but the final decision should be made by a jury.

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Well BTS don't have the charts and sales for SOTY this year so if the judges picked Celebrity or Next Level then BTS wouldn't win so...

Huh? Have u seen melon streams? They released the data and Butter is #2 overall (after some soloist) and then celebrity #3. And lets not even talk about international impact and streams. And even physical sales are better than any other song. If they go by the criteria butter wins easily. I wonder who convinced u next level is bigger than butter.

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Huh? Have u seen melon streams? They released the data and Butter is #2 overall (after some soloist) and then celebrity #3. And lets not even talk about international impact and streams. And even physical sales are better than any other song. If they go by the criteria butter wins easily. I wonder who convinced u next level is bigger than butter.

SM stans

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ArtistOTY - BTS

SOTY - NL or Celebrity

AOTY - Nct

BE is eligible

if bts or iu doesn't win it is pretty much rigged. lol

Next level should win. If butter wins then we all know it’s rigged

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SM stans

Next Level has better longevity than butter dipshit but go off stupid HYBE bot

SOTY is NL or celebrity

not a song who can't even enter top 6 of the year end gaon

bts or iu should win or else it's rigged coz of the acquisiton.

i am prepared to be surprised

the removal of voting do not have a big impact. lol

soty - celebrity, nl or butter

album and artist - bts

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SM stans

smh this lame excuse again. In korea, NL have more impact than butter, even NL is known as Vaccination Dance and still sitting at #5 daily (also the longest in top10 coming for Dyna neck). In gaon year end chart, NL is also above Butter. Your fave may get AOTY but SOTY , NL is more deserving.

So people still believe this? BTS will sweep all 3 daesangs. Army makes a fuss over nothing.

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smh this lame excuse again. In korea, NL have more impact than butter, even NL is known as Vaccination Dance and still sitting at #5 daily (also the longest in top10 coming for Dyna neck). In gaon year end chart, NL is also above Butter. Your fave may get AOTY but SOTY , NL is more deserving.

isnt mama more international then other korean award shows?

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isnt mama more international then other korean award shows?

only 10% lol so not really. Well this discussion is pointless actually since the judges (40%) have more weight than all other criteria