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because for charting you have to get the gp attention, your k-fandom can only help a little but it's not determining

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Are people going to create this thread every week now ?

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Guess we're repeating threads now: What's the point of selling a lot of albums when you can't even chart?

Maybe people think the whole market situation changed in 1 week?

People are lacking creativity, we need more originality here.

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Maybe people think the whole market situation changed in 1 week?

People are lacking creativity, we need more originality here.

When the revamp unbanned everyone and also allowed new alts to be created, this forum is in for a very rude awakening, especially with so few mods. I wouldn't be surprised to see a mass exodus of the more tolerable users if things don't change soon.

They are irrelevant in Korea among GP simple.

Cause the GP ain’t streaming it and neither are their fans. They’re only here for aesthetics and variety content.

wait who is this thread shading

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wait who is this thread shading

SVT and NCT, since they're the next boy groups on the rise.

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First off on the 'more streams' horseshit...yeah when a fandom is looping songs playlist at 4am in the morning every night for years straight I kind of expect that...but with all those streams above groups like BP, Twice, etc lets count Seventeens and NCT digital certs.....so if I grab my calculator out I can see...yep that's 0 DL certs for either and, oh again, 0 streaming certs for either group....yeah kind of expected those 'low quality' streams to be filtered out.

500k UL's? Huh? Seventeens last song peaked at 103k UL's on Melon and the 2nd day of release dropped out of the top 100 and it's currently sitting at 605 on Melon after what? 3 months....bro that's 15.9k listeners and these guys have 197k followers on Melon...

Nearly 200k fans on Melon that's about 8% of their fans still listening and the song is still pretty new....Checking em out on d1 is one thing but talking about in weeks dropping below 20k listeners when you're selling 1.2m or w/e and you gonna with a straight face tell me their fans care about their music....lol. Groups like NCT fair just a poorly.

The bottom line is, if their fans liked their music they would listen to it but with the fact that they aren't charting well on any chart in Korea, chart for like 3 weeks in Japan, have pretty low YT views and even worse Spotify streams...these groups sell like 3-5 million albums a year yet no one is playing their songs....

Fans lie, numbers don't.

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So you’re just gonna ignore Heng:Garae? It was also released in 2020. Charted very well as well, it hit #1 and spent 330+ hours in top 10 MelOn before reform. After reform it didn’t fall off the charts instead it went up from the 20s and peaked at #16 not to mention how it stayed in the rank 20s and 30s for nearly a month after the reform. On Genie they have 840k ULs as well, and on Gaon 111M+ digital points. You can’t say no one is listening to their music, that is a stretch. 2.2B+ streams on MelOn, 1.2B+ streams on Gaon (based on last year’s July update), 1.2B+ streams on Spotify doesn’t seem like no one is listening to them. Also, you need to realize how MelOn is only 1 out numerous streaming sites in Korea.

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I am in no way saying they are a digimon, but they definitely do well for a fan driven group. Your question can also be reversed as well. Why can’t acts that chart high on MelOn even hit 500k-1M physical sales if they have so many people listening to them? The only act that comes to my mind that consistently sells millions and has out of the world charting every comeback is only BTS.

Literally I saw the same thread just couple days ago, y’all are getting uncreative.

Because no one is listening to their music and fans only buy the albums for photo cards. Also to break physical records since that’s the easiest thing to do nowadays.

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Because no one is listening to their music and fans only buy the albums for photo cards. Also to break physical records since that’s the easiest thing to do nowadays.

Definetly someone has to say it lol

As much as a shock it may be to some, Korean GP doesn't give much crap about Kpop.

They were always prejudiced and will likely remain so, looking at the decline kpop has faced in its charting.

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As much as a shock it may be to some, Korean GP doesn't give much crap about Kpop.

They were always prejudiced and will likely remain so, looking at the decline kpop has faced in its charting.

If ur song is good then u will chart look at gidle

It's just an special album with little promotions, babe. If you saw their performance from YMMD to Henggarae title tracks, all are pretty decent.

And besides BTS, Wannaone (and sometimes Exo) which other boy groups are digimons (3rd-4th gen)? Let's be real, korean gp isn't really fond of boy groups. Like, I can name few boy groups who had a hit but didn't made it big like our Seventeen.

And it's not that fans aren't listening, we are but not at the same time, we still need gp support to chart high (and sadly we don't have that). Fans have life outside kpop, you can't expect us to just stream all day round. But we do listen to their songs when we feel like it and whenever we need something to lift us up.

Fans support their faves with the way that they can afford. For me, I don't have the time to stream and vote. So for me, buying a lot albums & donating to people who are streaming is easier than me steaming it non stop. I don't wanna get tired of the music, I wanna listen to it whenever I need it. And besides, they said kpop idols get more money from album sales than from streaming.

I want them rich, bro. They said they are making music for fans, if that music reached gp, then it's good, but if it didn't then it's also fine. Besides it's better to have an stable fandom who will support your music, contents, and everything, than having heavily supported by gp but will easily stumble with just one false rumor.