So Newjeans/Le sserafim already surpassed Ive in everything. What went wrong with Ive?

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Ditto u know

ive have still 37 wins in music show and ton being winner in foreigner awards

Ive can't overshadowed the hybe gg cause hybe mediaplay...and other factor..

Wonyoung is still it girl and bigger than nj and lesserafim

recently she is viral for make trend innisfree and the sales re better now

Ive have 2 it girls in korea ,there is yujin is known popular as ambassadors fendi and other brands.

When Non fans dont know rei is ambassadors of 3 brands ....i know they dont care other members and their solo schedules...they re hidden dives soon

Starship did wasted ive's management..anyways we know rei is songwriter as main rapper for 4 raps also participed written her own rap in after like.

Gaeul write her rap part in royal .

Wonyoung and yujin has written in izone.

stream river by miley cyrus

Soty and soon grammy winner

IVE has Rei and Leeseo on their roster. They automatically win for me.

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Easy.

Ive has unknown members to the general public: Gaeun, Rei, Leeseo [yes, nowadays no one cares about leeseo, even Gaeul is more popular]

Yujin lives in the shadow of Wonyoung, I feel really bad for her, she never stood a chance. She keeps getting overlooked.

Wonyoung’s fake personality finally got to her and is hated by everyone, even the fans. She is popular though, no one will take that away from her, but her actions might have driven some of her fans away.

Liz does not make an effort to lose weight, hence she isn’t a visual anymore and can’t sing the chorus, that takes her to less screen time. She was my bias in Eleven, I was obsessed With her natural elegant doll-like look and that quickly faded in Love Dive when all the members showed improvement except for her and Wonyoung.

NWJNS still feels fresh, idk how to explain it, but they are special, kinda like BlackPink.

Lesserafim is extremely talented and relatable, they also have Sakura so their fan base is strong and loyal by default.

It is still too soon to say anything, I am excited for Ive’s comeback, Kakao has plenty of money so they can invest in them.

This isn’t a war , there is space for all groups.

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You re just still lost...like yujin did well with her own popularity in korea if you know yujin is still popular idol in 4gen .

Wonyoung isn't fake ...like girl wake up this is obvious she is careful teenager and overwhelmed with the ton hate,she was more free in izone as maknae and center.

She get overanalysed since 13 yo...the kpop stans should stop make wonyoung like most problematic idol cause she love hide her problems personal ...she was really overworked last year even she was highschooler..(homeschooler)

Wonyoung have stong aura and presence when you notice she is trying her best for dont look stressful..you act she is evil..stop watching evil edits..the People have worked with her ,they have only great experience about her and her classmates tho.

Wonyoung get love in tiktok app now

We need more contents on yt for clean searched algorithm

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Liz improved her vocal like stop thought she get less lines in title song...make her bad main vocal no she get better in better and get ton lines in unrelease songs during fanconcert .

Why you love talk about her weight..stop bodyshamed..her even if you want she stay as eleven blonde girl.

Wonyoung improved much her vocal in fanconcert.

Gaeul rei leeseo re pretty popular on tiktok lol

I guess you re not fan of them and watching yt shorts and being brainwashing...much imao

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Not a fan

LE SSERAFIM and especially NewJeans are up to date.

It's been a long time since IVE's last comeback and the group is quiet at the moment. Surely they are preparing for their album which will be released in April.

All three are top girl groups and also very young and will grow a lot over time and gain a lot.