Several people were killed after shooting in Hamburg, Germany

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    The police of the Hanseatic city speaks of a large location in the Alsterdorf district. The crime apparently happened at an event organized by Jehovah's Witnesses.


    Several people were killed and injured when shots were fired in a church in northern Hamburg on Thursday evening. The police were not yet able to provide any information on the total number of victims. The "Bild" newspaper reported seven dead and eight injured.


    "The dead all have gunshot wounds," said a police spokesman. The perpetrator may also be among the dead. After the officers arrived at the scene, another shot was fired on Thursday evening, a police spokesman said. A fatally injured person was later found on an upper floor of the building. There are indications that this could be the perpetrator. But there is no certainty yet.


    According to a dpa reporter, the rescue workers carried people out of a Jehovah's Witnesses building. The incident happened in the Alsterdorf district of Hamburg. According to the police, there is no reliable information about the background or the motive for the crime. "We ask that you do not share unsecured assumptions and/or spread rumours," police wrote on Twitter.


    "At the moment the situation has calmed down," said a police spokesman. Patrol cars with blue lights cordoned off the crime scene in the evening. Patrol officers with submachine guns additionally secured the area.


    An official hazard announcement by the Hamburg Interior Ministry initially spoke of an "extreme danger". "Around 9:00 p.m. today, one or more unknown perpetrators shot people in a church," the text said. The police were informed by telephone about the shots at around 9:15 p.m. A special unit of the riot police, which was nearby, went into the object.


    What kind of event was held in the congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses is also still unclear. The police spokesman said: "Several people were in the building during the event."


    The streets at the crime scene were cordoned off extensively. The police asked: "Avoid the danger area. In the danger area, stay where you are and do not go outside for the time being." In addition, the emergency number 110 should only be used in extreme emergencies or for relevant observations.


    Hamburg Mayor Peter Tschentscher (SPD) was dismayed by the shots. "The reports from Alsterdorf / Groß Borstel are shocking," Tschentscher wrote on Twitter on Thursday evening. "My deepest sympathy goes to the relatives of the victims. The emergency services are working flat out to track down the perpetrators and clarify the background." Tschentscher called on citizens to heed the police's instructions.

  • My heart breaks for the victims. It's always revolting and devastating to hear these type of news.


    But this one hits different for me, as it's literally 10 minutes away from where I live. I'm of course safe at home, but the whole city is in alert rn.

    oh please stay safe!

    I hope we won't have those mass shootings in European countries as they have in US, that would be tragic...

    altough if we think about it we already have war here so what to do...

  • Gun laws only affect people who are inclined to obey them. Criminals ignore them.

    nah they also deter. If guns are not visible everywhere and people don't generally know how to handle them, a lot of psycho killers will not get one. There's always ones who do and will, unfortunately, but knife attacks are more common in Europe for a reason, they're easier to come by. And yes, those suck too, but it's still way easier to escape and restrain someone with a knife than someone with a semi-automatic.

  • nah they also deter. If guns are not visible everywhere and people don't generally know how to handle them, a lot of psycho killers will not get one.

    We have over 20,000 state and local gun laws on the books in the USA. How is that deterrence thing working out?


    Nothing stops a psycho killer from getting his hands on an illegal "junk gun" in any country, no matter what the laws say. Criminals don't read laws. The only deterrent effect on their crimes comes from fear that the intended victim might shoot back. Mass shootings never seem to happen at NRA conventions or police stations or cowboy bars in Texas - only in "gun-free zones" where there is a near certainty that the shooter will face no opposition.


    Politicians who pass unconstitutional laws to establish these areas are creating the problem - and the subsequent media coverage that gives the shooter the notoriety he craves virtually guarantees repeat incidents.

  • We have over 20,000 state and local gun laws on the books in the USA. How is that deterrence thing working out?


    Nothing stops a psycho killer from getting his hands on an illegal "junk gun" in any country, no matter what the laws say. Criminals don't read laws. The only deterrent effect on their crimes comes from fear that the intended victim might shoot back. Mass shootings never seem to happen at NRA conventions or police stations or cowboy bars in Texas - only in "gun-free zones" where there is a near certainty that the shooter will face no opposition.


    Politicians who pass unconstitutional laws to establish these areas are creating the problem - and the subsequent media coverage that gives the shooter the notoriety he craves virtually guarantees repeat incidents.

    lmaoooo what

    technically you can get illegal guns in Europe too, people just mostly don't. Because it involves a few more hoops to jump through and they're less likely to have experience with them. That alone makes a big difference. Even the gangs here operate less with guns, would you look at that.


    most of those killers literally end up killing themselves or take death by cop into account. You think they're worried about folks shooting back? They just shoot at people/places that pissed them off, so workplaces and education centres are a favourite. How come these crimes are so much less common in less gun-obsessed countries (and don't come at me with developing countries and cartel statistics)? But the US will stick their fingers in their ears and pretend they don't hear the gunshots every single day.


    Breivik was allllll over the media after his crime, his trials were all over the media and yet, where's all the copycats if notoriety makes all the difference?

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