Isn't OMG/Ditto debut material?

Big No
it will flop like NMIXX

luckily for them the momentum hype and fandom + gen public reputation already on their side

it comparable to IZTY debut
but had better individual marketing or each of their members had stronger following than ITZY
and fresher/younger lineup is an advantage

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Big No
it will flop like NMIXX

luckily for them the momentum hype and fandom + gen public reputation already on their side

Nmixx's song wasn't good that's why it flopped on digital charts.

i think people are really overlooking the seasonal aspect when it comes to talking about ditto and omg. these songs were specifically picked for their winter vibe. that is why they are heavily focused on the melody and are more mid tempo. it was said that omg was produced alongside newjean's debut tracks. but i see that more as continuity rather than omg sounding like a debut song. i think ditto and omg were very good follow ups personally and they are solidifying what new jeans is all about. i would say hype boy was actually a very good introductory song and concept.

personally im not sure about "lore" when it comes to newjeans. mee heejin is basically treating their mvs and concepts like an art or fashion exhibit. its a display of multiple different ideas that i have yet to see as entirely cohesive to the point where there will be a long running storyline. but only time will tell i guess.

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Nmixx's song wasn't good that's why it flopped on digital charts.

that why I said if this is their debut song like the post said
it will flop
for me I don't like this comeback song

maybe this is a safe release?
not bad but not good enough to say song of the year?

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that why I said if this is their debut song like the post said
it will flop
for me I don't like this comeback song

maybe this is a safe release?
not bad but not good enough to say song of the year?

Oky

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ok i get it. But i'm not talking in term of success but in term of introduction. I feel like these two songs are meant to be an introduction.

but maybe hype directors were like we need something more catchy for a debut and then MHJ worked to get attention/hype boy. If you get what i mean.

Im not saying it's the better choice but that maybe it was the first choice. And it terms of sotrytellings it makes sense.

uh im not talking in terms of "success" either. my whole point was that i think ditto/omg are good follow ups and that hype boy was a good introduction song. truth is, hype boy's flashiness, catchiness, funkiness, ect is what kept new jeans at the top. attention got them attention but hype boy kept all eyes on them. and ditto and omg are just driving everything home.

min heejin said before their debut that she had newjeans' debut song for like 3 years... not sure if it was confirmed if she meant hype boy, cookie, or attention specifically, but their debut was already planned for a long time. there was no last minute switch to something more "catchy".

i don't think they really have lore.

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i don't think they really have lore.

Yeah think Ador is trying to buck a lot of the big kpop trends from the last 5 years or so, and long-running lore is definitely one of them.

Feels like OMG and Ditto are just MVs with individual themes and storylines.

Not really imo they’re doing well because attention and hype boy were a hit and attracted attention so people tuned in. Imo these would have been forgotten if they were the debuts.

fun fact: OMG and Ditto were chosen if not already recorded during the same sessions as the debut EP. (the final versions of OMG/Ditto may have new vocals as the members improved their skills tho). Hurt was chosen as early as 2019.

But it sounds like they were sitting on these 6 songs at the same time and decided to keep 4 for debut and 2 for later, and the basis for choosing that was the summer and winter concepts.

aclassyteaparty is right (as usual) in that people should see these comebacks like fashion shows, with FW and SS themes. Loosely connected, but new inspirations mixed in also.

I don't think MHJ has a LORE for them to follow along. They are just experiencing things as NJs are growing, if they only gambled on SOTY-worthy songs they wouldn't have invested so much on EVERY song (with their fanbase & hype, just focus on 1 catchy title track, I bet the streaming & charting would be much greater => SOTY)

Also the debut time might be decided not only by ADOR, but HYBE too, not to clash with their other artists. So the songs chosen make sense. I can't imagine hearing Ditto in summer.

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Well im not talking in terms of sucess but in terms of introduction. I feel like these two songs and these two mvs are like the perfect introduction to NJ lore and storytelling and general music direction. You know, a debut meant dor introduction not necess1rily to be a hit.

Their 1st comback on the other hand is supposzd to ve a hit or smth. You know Like Black Mamba vs Next Level but Ditto vs Hype boy.

I still disagree. I think setting the tone of their musical direction and concept was already very well done with their debut album. Everything I.e both the success and the music is only an extension of their debut.