Gfriend, MMM and OMG managed to chart well, however not even at the same time.
Um Oh Ah Yeah was pretty big even before Gfriend's peak. Then Rough and You're the best both smashed domestic charts almost at the same time. It was RV the group that wasn't doing that well by that time.
But anyway, I think bgs were the ones that had the hardest time to stay relevant. Ikon, Winner, Pentagon, Monstax, etc etc. All of them are pretty much forgotten now.
Display MoreNo? Mamamoo and GFriend both rose in 2015 and had major hits in 2016.
They were both top groups at the same time. That's kind of why they did a joint Showtime season together. You can easily find full episodes on youtube.
GFriend didn't reach the digital peak of their first major hits again (Me Gustas Tu and Rough specfically), but they still had a very strong fandom for relative to their peers and were able to sell out concerts and lots of albums (again this is back when 100k was impressive for a GG)
Mamamoo had #1 hit songs from 2016 to 2018, and that's not counting Hwasa's success individually. They started from basically nothing and rose to top girl group status. Their digitals have cooled off lately, but they're also doing a lot of solo activities and barely promote as a group (until the end of this year maybe).
For several years, Twice, BP, RV, MMM and GF were an absolute wall, so I don't think they suffered in the slightest.
Those girl groups killed it in 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019.
Gfriend's popularity in top tier was very short lived tho, MGT, Rought and Navillera, then they had another hit with TTML, same as OMG, even shorter, from Nonstop, Dolphin and DDDance, Mamamoo is the only non big 3 which had a longer career in top tier
Am i taking crazy pill? this thread is 100% false lol. Outside big 4 ggs rn only ive and stayc have any sort of public relevance in korea (and gidle if you count them 4th gen; i don’t). So that’s at most 3 non-big 4 4th gen ggs compared to 3 non-big 3 3rd gen ggs who managed to reach the top. How does that mean 4th gen is doing any better than 3rd gen in that regard? Kpop is still as top heavy as ever, only groups coming from big companies have a real chance of success, the rest depends heavily on luck. In fact, at least 3rd gen lifted 2 companies out of complete nugudom thanks to mamamoo and gfriend; for 4th gen ive and gidle come from starship and cube - hardly nugu by any means, and bep’s company was not entirely nugu either but i’ll be generous and give them that title. So for 4th gen it’s actually even harder to be top tier if you come from a completely nugu company. And amongst these non-big 4 ggs, stayc, who’s in the top 3, is no where near on par with how popular mamamoo and gfriend were, so that’s another point awarded to 3rd gen. So what exactly do you mean by 4th gen is producing more successful non-big 4 ggs than 3rd gen? Bc that’s absolutely not true lol
The only gen in which groups from small companies still had a chance was 2nd gen. After kpop’s popularity gradually declined in korea at the end of 2nd gen the public was never as keen on checking out nugu groups ever again. Only big 4 groups have guaranteed success now, and that’s the case for both 3rd and 4th gen
Am i taking crazy pill? this thread is 100% false lol. Outside big 4 ggs rn only ive and stayc have any sort of public relevance in korea (and gidle if you count them 4th gen; i don’t). So that’s at most 3 non-big 4 4th gen ggs compared to 3 non-big 3 3rd gen ggs who managed to reach the top. How does that mean 4th gen is doing any better than 3rd gen in that regard? Kpop is still as top heavy as ever, only groups coming from big companies have a real chance of success, the rest depends heavily on luck. In fact, at least 3rd gen lifted 2 companies out of complete nugudom thanks to mamamoo and gfriend; for 4th gen ive and gidle come from starship and cube - hardly nugu by any means, and bep’s company was not entirely nugu either but i’ll be generous and give them that title. So for 4th gen it’s actually even harder to be top tier if you come from a completely nugu company. And amongst these non-big 4 ggs, stayc, who’s in the top 3, is no where near on par with how popular mamamoo and gfriend were, so that’s another point awarded to 3rd gen. So what exactly do you mean by 4th gen is producing more successful non-big 4 ggs than 3rd gen? Bc that’s absolutely not true lol
The only gen in which groups from small companies still had a chance was 2nd gen. After kpop’s popularity gradually declined in korea at the end of 2nd gen the public was never as keen on checking out nugu groups ever again. Only big 4 groups have guaranteed success now, and that’s the case for both 3rd and 4th gen
completely agree. I’m used to the short memories in Kpop but the desire to crown 4th Gen so early feels just too early.
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