were Twice really ever THAT big? I think a lot of there fame is exaggerated

  • I know for sure BP are a top group but I'm questioning how big onces claim Twice is....

    When I see groups like IVE managing to outsell them in 9 months it puts things into a different perspective.

    Also Aespa, Itzy and soon more.

    Twice should be selling 2x the amount of these groups if they were really that huge.

    They seem like a trend that lasted a bit longer since 3rd gen had no real competition but now that 4th gen is here it's starting show Twice didn't have much power.

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  • They were.


    Most number #1 hits out of any 3rd gen group and was outselling all other girl groups at one point

  • no as a Blink they definitely were huge

  • twice has as much as sistar had but sistar where never the ngg

    its not just about digitals, twice went to a lot of variety shows and that's how they got the ngg name

    as time pass and their numbers decrease to other gg and they were less in tv the name detached of them

  • they were NEVER that huge. They were just trendy and a bit more longlasting than Gfriend who had 2 national hits and faded into oblivion right after. Twice managed to have hits for 2 more years until they were surpassed both physically and digitally and they never had a hit since 2018. They were also never referred as a digital monster like their other 2 top gg contemporaries

  • Who’s other gg can come back to back Japanese and Korean promotions with us single answer = Twice


    Ofc some people will get tired of it but twice still thriving and still selling well so

  • if they were that "huge" why couldn't they keep the distance to these new groups like blackpink did? it proves they were never top artists just a trend


    none of their records they will keep and just like that they were replaced

  • I mean they were the NGG for a very short time. By far the most all round gg with digitals, albums, always making news etc

  • Twice was huge. Everytime they comeback, they will hit number 1 in Korea. Japan also was Twice’s playground and was the number 1 Korean act until BTS took over later (in 2019 or 2020). Now, Twice is a stable act and still growing globally especially in the USA. They really are the third most successful kpop group for 3rd gen.

  • I mean they were the NGG for a very short time. By far the most all round gg with digitals, albums, always making news etc

    Then they weren’t a ngg ever. Snsd were the original ngg and they keep smashing now in their 15th year. Twice was about to take over the title but they could never because of their awful encore that exposed they couldn’t sing like Snsd

  • if they were that "huge" why couldn't they keep the distance to these new groups like blackpink did? it proves they were never top artists just a trend


    none of their records they will keep and just like that they were replaced

    BTS and BP are bigger. No ones deying that. But Twice success is as or more stable than any 3rd gen group except those two

  • Girl Rookie twice bigger than all 4th gen ggs easily

  • Then they weren’t a ngg ever. Snsd were the original ngg and they keep smashing now in their 15th year. Twice was about to take over the title but they could never because of their awful encore that exposed they couldn’t sing like Snsd

    Wow did you really just drag up an encore from 2016 (if anything that just proves how big they were). And they were named ngg after that encore so not sure what you're on about

  • if they were that "huge" why couldn't they keep the distance to these new groups like blackpink did? it proves they were never top artists just a trend


    none of their records they will keep and just like that they were replaced

    The only thing that declined was kcharts, which btw will decline for all these hot ggs too once they aren’t the shiny new thing


    Everything else is stable and growing. Twice even getting huge hit with the feels in jpn as a 6 year gg when other ggs big in Japan like Kara and snsd declined heavily in jpn at that point

  • they were huge at the time. kpop has gotten more popular globally since their peak. it makes sense that the numbers are different. the market size was different.

  • Maybe it was one of those "you had to be there to witness it" moments, but yes, they were actually that huge.

    Cheer up was a campaign song and Chewie legit swung the election for Tsai Ing-wen

  • they were huge because they comeback every 2 weeks

  • With the influx if these new kpop fans who just for into kpop for the first, you really can't understand how big they were just by reading about it from antis, just one how 3rd gen can't understand how big SNSD was

  • They were big for 2 years but then declined massively so it’s hard to see them as a big group now.

  • They charted like monster GG's which then converted into a BG-like stable fanbase - they are easily the #1 3rd gen GG

  • Then they weren’t a ngg ever. Snsd were the original ngg and they keep smashing now in their 15th year. Twice was about to take over the title but they could never because of their awful encore that exposed they couldn’t sing like Snsd

    Lmfao snsd aren’t "smashing" anything. They’ve been flopping since 2013.

  • Their song CU was huge when I joined kpop. I've never seen a song having more impact that that.

  • Brainwashed to think that less comebacks means more quality. Sheeps.

    The way I didn't bring anything about quality into the table lmao. Twice managed to hit it right making gp stuffed of their musics and concepts. The only reason they were succesful back in 2016-2018. After the comebacks slowed down they started flopping.

  • Yes they were big but obviously not as big as fans claim

  • Yes they were the biggest gg for years but now they're too old

  • Lmfao snsd aren’t "smashing" anything. They’ve been flopping since 2013.

    So a 15 yo gg managed to recently totally destroy any of Twice charting for the 3 years is a flop.


    What does that make Twice teh supposed NGG? Super flop? Mega flop? Giga flop?

  • they were NEVER that huge. They were just trendy and a bit more longlasting than Gfriend who had 2 national hits and faded into oblivion right after. Twice managed to have hits for 2 more years until they were surpassed both physically and digitally and they never had a hit since 2018. They were also never referred as a digital monster like their other 2 top gg contemporaries

    No GG has ever been a digital monster - none of them reached the levels IU, Bigbang or BTS achieved on the digital charts. So whoever you claim as digital monsters don't exist - not on Korean charts.

  • Twice were indisputably 'huge' among GGs during 2016-2018 period plus few months, and they have declined since.


    Blackpink took a different path, they did not best Twice in the initial years. But since 2019, they are the top GG from 3rd gen, but the issue with BP is that their releases are so few and infrequent, that they often were left holding the title, by default, without actually being tested.


    Twice decline on K-charts since 2019, does not erase their history of success pre-2019.


    I don't know why SNSD gets pulled into these conversations. But anyway,

    SNSD also were dominant from 2008-2011 period and then declined. SNSD was unique that they were the only GG so far who even bested the top BGs of their peak period.

    Whereas Twice did not outperform EXO or then BTS - neither did BP outchart BTS.


    And no GG is worth calling a digimon - that is pretty much only 3 acts - IU, Bigbang and BTS.

    ** All this is of course, is in the context of Korean charts.

  • Twice was holding most records in Japan for a kpop act before BTS started getting them after dynamite smashed


    That’s how big Twice is. If not for BP global popularity, Twice would have had a bigger career than them. In Korea I can definitely say that Twice has a bigger career than BP.

  • BTS has shown they're not digital monsters either, at least on the level of big bang and IU. Those 2 always get number 1 no matter how long the gap from CB to cb and stay there for weeks. BTS has had songs like On and best is yet to come that have fflopped, their main push comes from songs doing well abroad like bwl, dynamite etc. Without that the results speak for themselves

  • BTS has shown they're not digital monsters either, at least on the level of big bang and IU. Those 2 always get number 1 no matter how long the gap from CB to cb and stay there for weeks. BTS has had songs like On and best is yet to come that have fflopped, their main push comes from songs doing well abroad like bwl, dynamite etc. Without that the results speak for themselves

    BTS makes up for the slightly lower peaks by their impressive longevity.


    Bigbang are the Peak Kings, but lower on Longevity

    BTS are Longevity lions, but lower on the peak.


    IU is IU

  • I can’t believe we are finally reaching a time where people even doubt twice’s popularity. They were huge during their prime and broke so many records for girl groups. Asia’s biggest girl group we’re talking about


    Wow this gives me deja vu to how people are treating exo now that they are not at the top.

  • People just lying to themselves about twice now. Every single metric theyre pretty in the top 3. Name one and theyre there. They have the most number one hits and sales of their gen by a large margin. Also lol at bringing in the current sales like this isnt the most fishy and inflated era of sales ever where anyone is getting 1m sales.

  • People just lying to themselves about twice now. Every single metric theyre pretty in the top 3. Name one and theyre there. They have the most number one hits and sales of their gen by a large margin. Also lol at bringing in the current sales like this isnt the most fishy and inflated era of sales ever where anyone is getting 1m sales.

    This. Look at every other metric beside charting. Sales, awards, streams, touring, billboard achievements, etc, Twice is to 1 to 3 in like everything else.


    People who don't shower like to bring up the one metric that works in their favor and ignore everything else.

  • Twice was holding most records in Japan for a kpop act before BTS started getting them after dynamite smashed


    That’s how big Twice is. If not for BP global popularity, Twice would have had a bigger career than them. In Korea I can definitely say that Twice has a bigger career than BP.

    In Korea I can definitely say that BP has a bigger career than Twice.
    BP has easily passed most of Twice's records outside of Gaon album sales. The gap keeps widening.
    Twice hasn't had a hit in Korea in years, so their career seems to be worth very little. Even SNSD can come back with a hit, but after just 3-4 years of activity Twice has flop after flop with no signs of being relevant anymore.
    Even when Twice comes back, they aren't even more searched on Melon than BP.

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