Yeah you can come at me for saying this but Idle feels like a 3rd gen group to me

more so than 4th gen. I remember when they debuted, they were always compared to twice bp rv mamamoo. Even the members themselves belong to same/similar age group of other 3rd gen ggs. Technically they are considered 4th gen but they don't feel 4th gen.

They've always been a 3rd/3.5 gen group to me. For one, Koreans typically label the change of a generation when the BIG 3 groups debut or when there's a clear change in top groups. Like when Twice/Red Velvet took over for SNSD etc, right now it's AESPA/IVE etc taking over in the mainstream scene. Also it doesn't really make sense when G-idle has Soyeon who competed in PD101, and essentially is in the same "generation" as IOI, Weki Meki and those were 3rd gen as well. So they're at the very latest a 3.5 gen group.

OP's puzzled because idle didn't get compared to aespa, IVE or le sserafim when they debuted. In 2018. Makes sense!

They ARE 3rd gen just like the other 2018 debutees. Yall success stans could say otherwise all you want to prop up their achievements but gidle is obviously more spiritually and fundamentally and stylistically similar to groups in 3rd gen than 4th. I’ve been saying this since the beginning and of course I’m right once again 😌

The whole generation thing feels vague af

There's a thing called 3.5th gen which consists of G-idle, Stray Kids, Ateez, The Boys or anyone debuting before 2019.

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OP's puzzled because idle didn't get compared to aespa, IVE or le sserafim when they debuted. In 2018. Makes sense!

wow smartass you managed to derive this from the whole point

because they are 3.5 generation

I think it's because their songs doesn't sound childish like the rest of 4th gen

Nobody gives a fak

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Nobody gives a fak

Okay and idgaf about you or your opinion either

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now it's AESPA/IVE etc taking over in the mainstream scene.

They’d are not taking over bp

they literally are tho most knetz have called them either 3rd gen or 3.5 gen

but imo 4th gen started in 2020

Ggs debuting in 2018 are 3rd gen

The thing is that bgs and ggs start differently the gens, EXO started the 3rd gen for bgs in 2012 but for ggs it was 2014, no one in their right mind considers AOA 3rd gen and they debuted at the same time as EXO. Basically if you get the umbers right, 2018 is the 4th gen for boys, and 2020 for ggs, even NMIXX debuts proves that, they are the actual 4th gen jyp gg

I dont get the fuss, what does it even matter

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The thing is that bgs and ggs start differently the gens, EXO started the 3rd gen for bgs in 2012 but for ggs it was 2014, no one in their right mind considers AOA 3rd gen and they debuted at the same time as EXO. Basically if you get the umbers right, 2018 is the 4th gen for boys, and 2020 for ggs, even NMIXX debuts proves that, they are the actual 4th gen jyp gg

Generations start the same year.

It's like mixed gender twins, one doesn't say "I'm Gen X" and the other says "well I'm Gen Y".

Its patently absurd. Gens start and finish at the same time for both genders. So pick your category, but it applies to all groups in the same year.

why does stans care which generation which idol belongs to

isn't kpop about music, are yall not here for music?

what yall here for?

Korean media consider them 4th gen

yeah, they have better music, but i still don´t like them enough

but if i have to choose from 4 gen i would say IVE and G idle