Isn't this hypocrisy? Armys?

    All of Suga's successful songs are collaborations and that too with top artists .While jungkook only collaborated with 1 artist and everyone is sceptical of his solo power.

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    Yeah it is. Everyone hates jungkook. Everyone's out to get him. I just know it.

    Watch every step you're taking Army's because I'm right here watching you back :pepe-mirror-glare:

    let me play the devil's advocate but Suga has the whole AgustD thing going on, so people have an easier time accepting him as a soloist, while Jungkook still doesn't have his solo debut

    Each BTS member will do better than any other kpop soloist. So let the doubters doubt. They will be proven wrong in just about time.

    what's with jk solo stans in anon? who is exactly everyone? who is skeptical?


    weird.


    and leave other members alone, focus on your fave.

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    But collabs are his most successful tracks.

    you failed to mention that suga has never promoted his solo work. his collabs are most successful because they are promoted singles

    Suga and RM have a better reputation as creative artists, which matters more for soloists than groups.


    Others don't have that reputation. So might take some time.

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    Well even as a group they haven't beaten IU in many records IN Korea.


    So doubtful. But sure time will tell.

    And BTS members don't have to concentrate on Korea because they are popular around the world unlike IU. IU has to concentrate on Korea because she is nobody outside Korea. Especially compared to BTS.

    Korea is one country which actually isn't even top 5 music markets in the world.

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    But collabs are his most successful tracks.

    And? he still has a reputation as a capable solo artist because his solo mixtapes, not the collabs

    It’s funny how IU biggest song on Spotify is her collab with Suga.


    But as always antis salivating at the mention of BTS flopping is kinda pathetic to watch

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    But collabs are his most successful tracks.

    That’s because hip hop don’t go on charts - especially when they are in korean.

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    It’s funny how IU biggest song on Spotify is her collab with Suga.


    But as always antis salivating at the mention of BTS flopping is kinda pathetic to watch

    If it is Suga alone the reason for it, then how do his collabs with Suran, Heize rank on Spotify?


    Besides Spotify is hardly the chart to use for Kpop, its market share in Korea is still not significant. Melon, YT are better.


    All these are pointless, until he (or the rest) release their own solos, then we would know.

    Of course at least initially they will do better than 90% of other soloists in Kpop and fandom will buy physicals as usual.


    But will they beat IU in Korea? She is the record to beat in digitals.


    How is J-hope doing?

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    And BTS members don't have to concentrate on Korea because they are popular around the world unlike IU. IU has to concentrate on Korea because she is nobody outside Korea. Especially compared to BTS.

    Korea is one country which actually isn't even top 5 music markets in the world.


    That is dodge of an answer. At least for the Korean songs, not to succeed in Korea is a failure.


    From 2013-2016, when they were not "popular around the world" they still did not beat her and others. So meh.


    I am sure fans can cook up any sort of excuse to defend their favorites, that is the job of fans.

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    That is dodge of an answer. At least for the Korean songs, not to succeed in Korea is a failure.


    From 2013-2016, when they were not "popular around the world" they still did not beat her and others. So meh.


    I am sure fans can cook up any sort of excuse to defend their favorites, that is the job of fans.

    Nope. There is a reason why psy and boa will always remain bigger personalities than iu even though iu does better than them in korean digitals. There's a reason why iu is not even the biggest female soloist coming out of korea. The reason is she has done nothing other than digitals in korea. That's how relevant her records are. In future she will be as relevant as shin seunghun who is the best selling korean soloist of all time but still does not get mentioned alongside the names seo taiji, cho yongpil, psy or boa. Because their impact is nowhere to be found.

    Also bts "failures" during 2013-2016 is what made the greatest korean artists of all time. Getting famous with one viral moment doesn't make you that which is why someone isn't even top 5 korean soloist of all time.

    It is very much evident who is cooking up excuses here by acting like being popular in only one market is more important than being popular across the world.

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