Those that say that groups like Aespa and IVE are slowly surpassing TWICE

    stop right there

    Fans of 4th gen groups are getting bolder and braver, but here's the facts


    1. K-charts

    Sure, Aespa and IVE chart better. But international charts and digitals have become more important and in this TWICE are absolute queens


    2. Album sales

    Aespa have 1M preorder sales, great. But everyone's physicals have grown, wait till TWICE come back and see how massive their new sales peak will be. They already sold 500k this year without a comeback


    3. Spotify streams

    Aespa and IVE songs are catching up and outperforming TWICE recent songs like AF and Scientist... so what? The Feels still has a lot more streams, and Aespa and IVE or any other 4th gen group is anywhere close to TWICE's total streams



    Lets keep it real, ok

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    Why are you suddenly mentioning IVE? Literally no one said anything about them surpassing Twice. Keep that fight amongst y'all selves pls.

    What even is this random comparison anyway? Like who said this?


    Anyone trying to compare IVE and Aespa with a third generation gg like Twice needs to have their head checked.

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    Why are you suddenly mentioning IVE? Literally no one said anything about them surpassing Twice. Keep that fight amongst y'all selves pls.

    People start to compare 4th gen groups with 3rd gen groups like TWICE and pointing to their results like Aespa's and IVE's (and IDLE's and ITZY's in lesser degree) as proof that the new groups are beating the old top groups.

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    People start to compare 4th gen groups with 3rd gen groups like TWICE and pointing to their results like Aespa's and IVE's (and IDLE's and ITZY's in lesser degree) as proof that the new groups are beating the old top groups.

    Where?

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    Where?

    Twitter, youtube, also here. There have been several posts and discussion threads lately in anon and in main with people saying '3rd gen has formally ended' , '3rd gen top groups are done', 'TWICE has fallen' (something I read today), '4th gen wave is taking over with Aespa, SKZ, IVE leading the new wave' and so on.


    It's getting more and more. And it's premature.

    Twice might hit 1 million in old album sales, they reached 500k in 5 months


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    People here don't compare to Twice but RV, MAMAMOO, the smaller ones usually. Especially with OMG kind of mirroring STAYC. Has Aespa surpassed RV?

    You are wrong. Cause

    1. Korean charts are what korean company focus more, international one is money but K-charts give them a gurantee Lifetime career. And Ive doing a lot better than twice international charts atm.

    2. Twice stans said about the girls will reaching 1 million mark with their full album last year. So nahh.

    3. Spotify? IVE far above twice dear. The Feels doing better because it an ENGLISH SONG. It have MORE ADVANTAGE TO BE LISTEN MORE BY SPOTIFY LISTENERS. Even my cousin who doesn’t know anything about kpop played the song. Duh.

    4. Post about this with your real acc instead anon. :clown:

    To be honest. 4-gen groups have passed TWICE, and RV, and Mamamoo on the K-charts, and BP are MIA.


    In album sales Aespa are closing in on the current sales records, which is BP's, with preorders that are already more than TWICE's top sales. And newer groups like IVE, NMIXX and Le Sserafim start sales that are near or better than TWICE's Taste of Love, never mind the other 3-gen groups.


    Same for streams, views, popularity etc. There's no denying that 4-gen is closing in on and surpassing the 3-gen groups. It is what it is.


    That doesn't mean 3-gen groups are dead. They're still around, still do nice, at least the top ones. But it's not as if they're still miles above the growing 4-gen groups. Far from it.

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    Twitter, youtube, also here. There have been several posts and discussion threads lately in anon and in main with people saying '3rd gen has formally ended' , '3rd gen top groups are done', 'TWICE has fallen' (something I read today), '4th gen wave is taking over with Aespa, SKZ, IVE leading the new wave' and so on.


    It's getting more and more. And it's premature.

    I think the person saying those things is just waxing poetic and being intentionally overdramatic for entertainment value lol.


    In reality, the shift is happening, but those old 3rd gen dogs still got some bite left in them.

    LOL this sounds like the SNSD v. Twice threads from back in the day. SONEs accepted that their group's peak was over; ONCEs need to do the same. Go focus on your group and their post-Twice solo careers. They need their fans since they are the only ones who are willing to listen to their vocals-lacking solo songs.


    Aespa has better vocalists than TWICE and IVE definitely has better songs than the most recent Twice ones. Please pick a different fight.

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    LOL this sounds like the SNSD v. Twice threads from back in the day. SONEs accepted that their group's peak was over; ONCEs need to do the same. Go focus on your group and their post-Twice solo careers. They need their fans since they are the only ones who are willing to listen to their vocals-lacking solo songs.


    Aespa has better vocalists than TWICE and IVE definitely has better songs than the most recent Twice ones. Please pick a different fight.

    Nah sones we’re way worse than once’s. Sones couldn’t accept it for we and were a lot more toxic


    And let’s be honest these 4th gen girl groups haven’t surpassed twice, and by 2016 twice surpassed snsd in everything

    The reason for Twice to be considered the top GG in the past was their Korean charting so how is the kr charting invalid now? Who decided it? Onces? Because they are the only ones that i see trying to ignore it as Twice are flopping hard for a supposed national gg with the GP being in love with them.

    International numbers we have blackpink being above all with the others having numbers close to each other and Twice will have the best numbers simply because they are 7 years in their career, not because they are so ahead of others, the others are just in their 2/1 years of career. So be logical.

    They were supposed to sell 1M albums in 2018/19, no? And we are still here. Sure with now Aespa also breaking this record maybe onces will do more to achieve it too. They need any type of record nowadays anyways for Twice still be considered a top group.

    4th gen is slowly surpassing Twice. It's a fact.


    Unfortunately you don't get to claim achievements from two years ago as current.


    Twice's last release was Scientist. It was surpassed by Love Dive, Savage and Tomboy. Both peak and longevity on Melon, and Spotify streams. Youtube as well (Love Dive is catching up quickly and has 20mil less views but was released 5 months later). That's just pure fact. Loco also surpassed Scientist on all metrics (not sure about Loco on Melon). Even Fearless has surpassed them on Melon and is not far away on Youtube and Spotify.


    None can match Twice's legacy as yet.


    But 4th is gen is here, and yes, they have surpassed Twice in many metrics.

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