Is it because armys are solo stans or are there more OT7 armys that support each member?
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Mainly because their solo projects are good. Bts members are passionate about their work and you can feel it through their music.
Most armys are ot7. They support each member in their activities no matter who their bias is.
Solo stans don't do anything other than complaining. They only bring negativity. That's their contribution.
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Their solos are very good. Especially Jimins since gets very good streams on all solos. His ost didn’t get that many first day streams compared to others but the longevity is insane.
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ARMYs need to either stop pretending that most of them are ot7 who support every member or solo Stans don't contribute streams to solo songs. The numbers are right there for everyone to see. Instagram followers don't mean shit when jimin's ost reached 60m streams today while jin's ost released months ago sits at 62m.
But maybe it's because jimin's ost is good?
Funny how it's always the ml who have good songs.
It's ok to admit that the boys have solo Stans. Pretending they don't exist isn't going to change anything.
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ARMYs need to either stop pretending that most of them are ot7 who support every member or solo Stans don't contribute streams to solo songs. The numbers are right there for everyone to see. Instagram followers don't mean shit when jimin's ost reached 60m streams today while jin's ost released months ago sits at 62m.
But maybe it's because jimin's ost is good?
Funny how it's always the ml who have good songs.
It's ok to admit that the boys have solo Stans. Pretending they don't exist isn't going to change anything.
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ARMYs need to either stop pretending that most of them are ot7 who support every member or solo Stans don't contribute streams to solo songs. The numbers are right there for everyone to see. Instagram followers don't mean shit when jimin's ost reached 60m streams today while jin's ost released months ago sits at 62m.
But maybe it's because jimin's ost is good?
Funny how it's always the ml who have good songs.
It's ok to admit that the boys have solo Stans. Pretending they don't exist isn't going to change anything.
Jimin and Jungkook are the only ones who's osts were treated like a comeback. Jin and V both had 1.5 m streams within 24 hours while others had 4 million plus, armys aren't ot7 .
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Their solos are very good. Especially Jimins since gets very good streams on all solos. His ost didn’t get that many first day streams compared to others but the longevity is insane.
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ARMYs need to either stop pretending that most of them are ot7 who support every member or solo Stans don't contribute streams to solo songs. The numbers are right there for everyone to see. Instagram followers don't mean shit when jimin's ost reached 60m streams today while jin's ost released months ago sits at 62m.
But maybe it's because jimin's ost is good?
Funny how it's always the ml who have good songs.
It's ok to admit that the boys have solo Stans. Pretending they don't exist isn't going to change anything.
Oky so are we going to pretend that karmys gives a f about their projects on melon? And I armys only hype their favs. Jin and V didn't even get the half of the hype others got.
ofcourse bts has solo stans?? and, in absolute numbers, they have the more solos than any other group since bts' fandom is just so much bigger than any other groups'... but in relative numbers? compared with the size of the whole fandom, a huge portion of army is OT7.
NO SHADE, but if you compare army with blinks, you'll see what having a majority of solos actually looks like.
about solo projects' numbers, like (unpromoted) osts; i think y'all are deluding yourself. yes, OT7 army don't really support these solo projects, but that's not because they don't like certain members?? it's because OT7 army have been so conditioned that its 0T7 or nothing, that they don't take solo projects serious, which is very sad, but not proof that they have a vendetta against members or something. the difference in streams is mostly bc of the difference in solos a member has since they are the ones that support solo projects the most.
also, you should really compare bts' solo project numbers with comparatives (like other ost of the same drama) & you'll see how amazing bts ost actually perform.
i don't know how many times i can repeat this, but osts' performance on melon is depended on how the drama is doing. Jins solo didn't do amazing on Melon, but all other osts of that drama did bad, same for jimins ost (it's not doing anything insane, but an ost from the same drama from ost queen Taeyeon is doing bad in comparison), Taes recent ost is doing a lot better than any other ost of that drama too,... etc.
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ofcourse bts has solo stans?? and, in absolute numbers, they have the more solos than any other group since bts' fandom is just so much bigger than any other groups'... but in relative numbers? compared with the size of the whole fandom, a huge portion of army is OT7.
NO SHADE, but if you compare army with blinks, you'll see what having a majority of solos actually looks like.
about solo projects' numbers, like (unpromoted) osts; i think y'all are deluding yourself. yes, OT7 army don't really support these solo projects, but that's not because they don't like certain members?? it's because OT7 army have been so conditioned that its 0T7 or nothing, that they don't take solo projects serious, which is very sad, but not proof that they have a vendetta against members or something. the difference in streams is mostly bc of the difference in solos a member has since they are the ones that support solo projects the most.
also, you should really compare bts' solo project numbers with comparatives (like other ost of the same drama) & you'll see how amazing bts ost actually perform.
i don't know how many times i can repeat this, but osts' performance on melon is depended on how the drama is doing. Jins solo didn't do amazing on Melon, but all other osts of that drama did bad, same for jimins ost (it's not doing anything insane, but an ost from the same drama from ost queen Taeyeon is doing bad in comparison), Taes recent ost is doing a lot better than any other ost of that drama too,... etc.
Never said any ot7 fan have vendetta against some members. There are tons though that support only their biases and that's completely ok. But my simple point getting construed as fans having a vendetta just further strengthens my point more. Solos alone are not enough to bring this major difference in numbers. ARMYs in general do not want to accept either things btw- even the fact that solos affect the numbers for solo releases. They would rather just say- oh it's because the song was really good. Like all hyung line songs are bad then? It's one way to praise which is completely fine but you can see it differently once you turn the argument around.
Also all of Ml had comparable support internationally. Talking about melon doesn't make sense.
Jin's dropped to 200k daily streams while the others are around 700-900k. This is not only solos.
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Also all of Ml had comparable support internationally. Talking about melon doesn't make sense.
Jin's dropped to 200k daily streams while the others are around 700-900k. This is not only solos.
because it's mostly a difference in amount of solos they have?
yes, OT7 might listen more to some members' releases than others (could also be the style of the music), but if you don't think a big part of this problem is a lack of push from ot7 towards solo projects in general & a big difference in amount of solos, idk what to tell you
a lot of fandoms take solo releases very serious, af if they are group cbs (look at bps fandom), but that's really really not the case with armys. the ones making goals/funding/"hardcore" streaming... for solo projects are mostly solos themselves. we don't take them serious because & it's sad to admit, army need hybe to promote something for real before they see it as a serious release (which they never do, so yeah).
It's not ML having better songs, its ML having A LOT LOT more solos than the HL & everyone knows that. and since it's mostly solos carrying these solo projects, the difference will be big too...
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ofcourse bts has solo stans?? and, in absolute numbers, they have the more solos than any other group since bts' fandom is just so much bigger than any other groups'... but in relative numbers? compared with the size of the whole fandom, a huge portion of army is OT7.
NO SHADE, but if you compare army with blinks, you'll see what having a majority of solos actually looks like.
about solo projects' numbers, like (unpromoted) osts; i think y'all are deluding yourself. yes, OT7 army don't really support these solo projects, but that's not because they don't like certain members?? it's because OT7 army have been so conditioned that its 0T7 or nothing, that they don't take solo projects serious, which is very sad, but not proof that they have a vendetta against members or something. the difference in streams is mostly bc of the difference in solos a member has since they are the ones that support solo projects the most.
also, you should really compare bts' solo project numbers with comparatives (like other ost of the same drama) & you'll see how amazing bts ost actually perform.
i don't know how many times i can repeat this, but osts' performance on melon is depended on how the drama is doing. Jins solo didn't do amazing on Melon, but all other osts of that drama did bad, same for jimins ost (it's not doing anything insane, but an ost from the same drama from ost queen Taeyeon is doing bad in comparison), Taes recent ost is doing a lot better than any other ost of that drama too,... etc.
Christmas tree was carried by gp. V has the most solo stans but numbers are really low compared to jimin and jk's osts. And let's not even talk about Jin's ost.
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because it's mostly a difference in amount of solos they have?
yes, OT7 might listen more to some members' releases than others (could also be the style of the music), but if you don't think a big part of this problem is a lack of push from ot7 towards solo projects in general & a big difference in amount of solos, idk what to tell you
a lot of fandoms take solo releases very serious, af if they are group cbs (look at bps fandom), but that's really really not the case with armys. the ones making goals/funding/"hardcore" streaming... for solo projects are mostly solos themselves. we don't take them serious because & it's sad to admit, army need hybe to promote something for real before they see it as a serious release (which they never do, so yeah).
It's not ML having better songs, its ML having A LOT LOT more solos than the HL & everyone knows that. and since it's mostly solos carrying these solo projects, the difference will be big too...
You don't have to tell me anything. We can both have our separate views.
You keep comparing to blackpink's fandom when 1. They have tons of solo Stans basically half their fans 2. They are already starved for music so ofc they'll take anything they can get in terms of solos. These are not comparable.
My initial point was also you can't believe both the things (solos not contributing anything and ot7 ARMYs supporting everyone) at the same time if we look at the numbers. You don't believe atleast one...and i don't believe either.
And the good songs thing is actually what a lot of ot7 ARMYs say to justify the difference in streams. That's my point. What I don't get is your point in quoting me?
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^I'm asking for your point on quoting me because i woul like to know the direction of discussion
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It’s not only the things mentioned above but also the genre of a song matters.
Rap line does a lot of hip hop and rap that makes their music more inaccessible since it’s in Korean and we can’t appreciate their full bars and wordplay. Even among them, they have different styles. Jhopes music is very gp friendly and is well liked in the fandom and outside of it. Rm has a great style but it’s more suited to a niche audience. The people who love is really loved it. It’s simply not for everyone.
If we come to the ml line, v has the most solo stans but his streams are just okay. His fans will say it’s because the army fan base hate him or something but he has a very specific style or genre he does. Unfortunately it’s not the typical sound that’s popular with people. He further wants to do some jazzy stuff which will eventually affect his streams. I’m really glad he gets to express himself with music he prefers but what I’ve said about it still stands.
Jin has great songs but their sound is very much like korean ballads which are not that popular with international fans. He’s very popular in korea though and we can see that from how moon performed on melon. Epiphany also did amazing on streaming platforms.
Then we come to jimin and jungkook. Not only are they popular but they also make popular types of music. Its songs even non fans can enjoy casually and they have the voices that suit that type of music too. So it’s no surprise they’d get a bit more steams compared to others. Filter and euphoria still get a lot of streams even now and from non armys too.
There are so many factors to all this so I don’t think it’s fair to blame armys for only listening to one or two members solos when the fact is all the members songs are different and resonate with different audiences.
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