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"All my bad unnies, all my hood unnies."

"OHMAHGAWWWWD. HES A REALLY BAD BOY, HES A REALLY BAD BOY. AYE, OHMAHGAWD. HES A REALLY BAD BOY. HES A REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY BAD BOY." *makes loud "aaahh" sounds rhythmically"*

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Mullets

Looking at you Jaebeom

Wait, i got one better...

Unstyled, detachable mullets.

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Does this mean we can't judge singing either because we have lack of knowledge when it comes to language idioms, culture etc? When people judge vocals they judge how it sounds and the same goes for rap.

Exactly. Based on our own knowledge + preferences, we (people outside the culture) make a decision on whether we like it or not based on its sounds.

Regardless if whatever was sung/rapped, it can be deemed great or lacking. Even if it was "fraggle knackle boo boo", if the rhythum/tone/energy/delivery they did it with was wonderful to us, they won us over. + THATS OKAY. we can say "i like/dislike how this sounds because [insert reason].".

Lyrics tho, unded any context of language, has so many layers to it. The fact that most of us cant even form a true opinion about that aspect of kpop music unless we are handed a translation or is told what its about + that still wouldnt fully convey or hit home unless we grew in or deeply knew of the culture.

rap-wise (from my perspective), i have certain knowledge + views with hip hop around the world verus its approach + usage within kpop music over the years. before I got into kpop, there was a certain standard or view i had for anyone considered to be a rapper/lyricist/mc + lyrics (whether written by themselves or with assistance) are directly tied into that view.

coming into kpop, i had to learn (+ still learning) to suspend that view because the culture sees rappers in a wider scope + their standards are different. plus the way that certain messages, pictures, + analogies are present, i could never make my own full opinion about lyrics without the use of someone that knows (or at the least, giving whatever idea they know of, regardless if its correct or their own concocted far fetched thought) . So theres no way i or anyone outside of the culture can be a judge of THAT aspect of the artform, meaning we slick most times are halfway appreciating it for what it is.

long story short, many of us (me included) can be real surface level about music, which is okay. its made to make us feel good. however, things make a turn when we put too much value into these surface level feels + then we judge + start arguments + mayhem over nothing that really had any real tangible value to begin with other than single genuine good feels. its like we cant respect things for what it truly is. we can love it to death, but theres no need to fight anyone over it.

sorry this is so long. lawd. lolol hope your day is going well!

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Never trust people who claim to be able to judge rap in a language they don’t know. You know it’s all cap.

this. lack of knowledge about the language, idioms, + culture, many of us cant + shouldnt place ourselves in a position to FULLY decide that him or anyone is great or void of talent as a rapper.

yes, there are things we can recognize that is pleasing to the ear (mostly, a personal like or something that we are familiar with) + there are certain standards within the artform (depending on what lens the artform is viewed under), but even this has to be taken with a grain of salt.

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We are often just not self-aware enough to realize it.

THIS THO. this is what i wanna see from more fans. shoot, i need to see it from myself more honestly.

"Jopping" is still a good song to me. I can admit tho, "Infinity" gave me what i did + didnt need from "Jopping", so i dont listen to it as much nowadays.

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It’s from a blog. They write the presentation they experienced at Yonsei.

Presentation 3: Taking Intersectional Approach to BTS: Focusing on Black Female Fandom of BTS

Oh boy, this one was a surprising one to see on the list and also one presentation I looked forward too because yes, this proves BigHit actually acknowledges the existence of BTS’s black fans, but do they necessarily care about your problems? Hahahahaha, no. Great Start

The lady who presented this started with this slide of characteristics of black fans in BTS’s ARMY. Specifically, some of the discussion that circulates within this specific circle that you can see through the graininess of my photo that this includes: mockery, appropriation, and appreciation.

The title of this slide is is just questioning why BTS? As in why study them which the answers are obvious but from my notes I wrote down these particulars:

1. BTS is a phenomenal and has garnered a unique fandom thanks to the social media landscape. How do these fans interact with each other?
2. And as they are gaining more popularity around the world, what kind of racial and cultural effect does it have when going beyond Asia?
3. Also, K-pop is a hybrid culture itself. K-pop should be more interpreted as a complicated process.

And apparently she also interviewed about 10 black fans while also gathering some data off of Twitter. Unfortunately, I don’t have the pictures for that but I do have this: Enjoy the Snapchat screen

I had thought that Snapchat’s camera would be a bit better since for whatever reason, my camera zooms in more when on the app, so I have a couple of pictures like the one above. But someone, please explain how that works–I’m an old woman and don’t understand. Anyways, this presentation went in a slightly different direction than I had assumed as the presenter started talking about black women questioning whether Asian men liked them while also wrestling with their feelings for them. It was interesting, I guess, as I assume that the thought has crossed the minds of many black fans within the K-pop fandom.

Though I couldn’t help but feel somewhat embarrassed seeing this artwork when this slide popped up. Very good artistic skills and quality but again, knowing that this was being filmed and that I know that Bang Shi-hyuk and his lackeys were probably going to watch all this back in some shady room within their shady company building, I felt as if this came across as black fans being kinda thirsty for Asian men than anything.

Hmm, I wonder if BTS saw any of this? Imagine that. The Curse Returns

Sincerity of Hip-Hop…(from my notes, so I guess she said something along this lines. Probably BTS’s sincerity of Hip-Hop shows in their music choices. e.g. J-hope’s Chicken Noodle Soup).

This photo shows a screenshot from Chicken Noodle Soup along with one of the cameramen filming the conference. The presenter, I believe, was just explaining how BTS has incorporated black culture into their songs and yada yada yada. You know, good stuff. There wasn’t mention how some fans, not just black actually, were discontent with some of the characteristics of this video namely with some lyrics and J-hope’s hair. But again, this was a BigHit-sponsored conference, what do you expect?

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...this is a lot to process. Whoa.

heylo beautiful ones, happy new thread!

• Main Dancer - current strongest talent to offer the group. Helping others with choreography + staging.

• Sub Vocalist - give me 2-5 lines or some humming + background harmony parts while i start deep training my vocal skills. I wanna pull a Taemin on yall. give me 2-3 years + let me work so i can advance to a Lead/Main Vocal level. Lolol

• Face [International] - English speaker, American. Probably be one of the most social ones in the group doing livestreams + connecting with other international idols as well as being a translator for my Korean members + friends.

• Madnae [Fake Maknae] - 4 out of 5 chances that I'll be the oldest member, yet the one that looks + acts the youngest.

I want to get my previous 4 badges back. Red Velvet + Blackpink is available, but Loona is still missing. for some reason i kinda want my first free one to be my ultimate bias group, Winner, once its available.

MRSHLL

"ELECTRiFY"

Yeseo

"Silhouette"

the lyrics... i came across two different interpretations (one in the comments of the mv + one on genius korea). truly a song reflective of the times + also of a romance gone but lingering. yesss.

1. Dalla Dalla, Wannabe, Not Shy (changes by day + mood)

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4. Icy

the real winner tho...

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1. Dalla Dalla remix

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one of the things that still draws me to kpop is how some boy/girl groups or solo kpop artists incorporate r+b elements into some of their songs or adopt it as a part of their vocal styling. being an r+b fan since near birth, there's a joy i feel to hear how creative these producers + vocalists can be with their own interpretation of the genre while blending it with other influences + ideas.

whether it leans into a traditional sound or warps it with futuristic beats + twists, its nice to see + amazing to hear when its done great.

posts following below will be some kpop songs I've come across from popular kpop groups. if theres any you like as well, go head + share it!

also, there are artists that consider themselves Korean R&B artists versus a K-Pop artist. this thread isn't particularly focused on them; HOWEVER, there's another thread dedicated to discovering + sharing K-R&B. if you like some of these songs, please check it out!: mihn's spot |AKP's Official K-R&B thread

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You have an awesome voice and your pronunciation is on point! Thanks!

a brotha's face was dead-eyed studying the screen tryna read the romamization version to get these lyrics at least halfway decent. lolol thanks so much, this was fun!

yes jooyoung... yes to all of this.

soft + warm, quiet storm...

when the heat hits...

ahhh snap, i thought you were talking about this.

but im here for this too. yes, we want more.

is it too late to embrass myself for the sake of free akorns? lolol

https://voca.ro/1fHUm9JEWOW4