Posts by Yama-Chan

Quote from David33

I'm only delulu with Mamamoo, and that has nothing to do with stats, btw.😂

I said, Lakers, not Lebron. 😅

Mate, if you want to add stats, at least do it right. I created my acc here in 2023, Yama did it in 2016. In less than 2 years, I created half as many threads like him since 2016, and mine are not only about NewJeans and lame polls, or trolling.😂

Most of my threads are not mainstream, unlike his. He's basically an Akorn miner.🤣

Do the math, btw, we're basically on the same level. I have 500K views in 2 years, that means in 9 years, I will have 2.5M too.😂

Wrong! I'm INTP-T. 😅

Unless, he buys a table and begging to me to sit down, there's no chance for that.

Exactly! Meanwhile, I'm only laughing at Yama.

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This is why I don't engage with David. He has one brain wrinkle and you need a microscope to see it.

The date this account was created doesn't equal the amount of time I've spent posting here as a regular.

I've said countless times I spent almost all of the past decade being a regular on OH instead, which was a much bigger forum during that timeframe.

David don't be a dingus challenge failed yet again

Get your nugu ass out of here.

Quote from ISaidISaid

Blind obedience is not it. But anyone can be mislead which I believe is what is happening with them.

I also believe CBX were mislead by that weird dude, this not is not something that just happens to teen girls. It can happen to anyone.

Idols are just ppl. It’s very easy to see when they make wrong choices. Just because they “deliberately” make that choice doesn’t mean we can’t see it for what it is : a terrible idea.

We can agree to disagree then. I think NJZ made the best possible overall choice given the circumstances. You're free to feel otherwise.

But you're also not a fan like me, and I prefer my favorite idols not silently suffer and be miserable just to appease the corporate despots maliciously manipulating their careers.

Quote from CaraFIMIE

Its about the first to have a true smash hit song not the first to have a trust smash hit song..followed by another smash hit

its ILLIT. they were the first to do so and will have another one coming. y'all can stay coping

Cherish performed below Magnetic by such a severe degree that it negates their initial degree of separation from their peers.

It would be like aespa dropping Next Level and then all their follow up songs charting like Girls.

I already acknowledged the accomplishment of Magnetic in the OP. Let's see if they can do it again

Relax, Wateris

Quote from foreveraespaaa

In other words Illit are currently a 1 hit wonder

Yes. Exactly. Until they prove otherwise.

Quote from patrik-k

My point was that the coach can pick the team he want and it's up to him/her to decide that. Not about how the players react.

Literally what are you even trying to say?

Or don't waste the time and leave the sports analogies to me.

Quote from patrik-k

It's not like Hybe are forbidden not to have other girlsgroups that compets with NJ or have similar image. Same way sport teams can choose what players are going to play and who are going to sit on the sideline for a match. It's far from "sabotage", it's not like they are forced to prioritized NJ over any other of their groups of they don't have that kind of clause in their contract.

LMAO this is a HORRIBLE analogy.

People, I beg you not to use sports analogies with me present.

If a player getting starter minutes, who is a featured part of the offense, suddenly gets put on the bench for another player seen as their replacement, they will at BEST become a negative presence in the locker room and at worst demand a trade.

Players get salty about getting benched ALL THE TIME, let alone replaced.

The Patriots drafted Tom Brady's replacement infamously back in 2015, and Brady got him traded away from the team just a couple years later.

When the Colts drafted Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning left to go to Denver and parted ways with the franchise he became a legend on.

We JUST saw Luka Doncic, a global superstar, get traded under the cover of night without his knowledge, in the most shocking trade in NBA history, and he JUST took his team to the Finals last year.

Sports is quite literally the WORST thing you could use to argue your points.

Quote from patrik-k

An you think that would not follow "advice" from their parents and MHJ? In a Korean society were respect and courtesy towards seniors are very important? I doubt they would rebel against their parents or MHJ.

Lol.

You think majority of the trainees in the K-Pop system didn't rebel against their parents and mentors to become trainees in the first place? There are so many stories of trainees defying the wishes of their parents to join the entertainment sector.

I know you're not about to try to argue with me that teenagers are naturally compliant and obedient

Quote from Tru-Multistan

I almost forgot that I have actual metrics to support the poll, it's a bit outdated but we can see David is a mere nugu:

User	Threads_total	Replies_total	views_total
david33	317	3974	498,926
Yama-chan	574	25154	2,534,270

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I was about to summon you. Good work. Great data.

Get that nugu out of my sight. The comparison is a disgusting shame to my immaculate name.

Quote from monalisalove

Bigger in what meaning? Overall is too generic for me to vote.

But both need BP in their kpop lives to create delulu scenarios so

I ain't ever said anything about BP that wasn't fair or objective fact

Quote from ISaidISaid

I think your opinion is what NJZ have as well.

Of course. Contrary to popular belief most likely, I have a very large capacity for empathy.

So if I put myself in their shoes, I see zero timelines where I wouldn't also ride or die with the people who helped me achieve my dreams, not the company that treated me like an opp even though my success should be seen as their success.

I just hate the narrative that NJZ are mindless puppets following directives.

Has anyone here ever interacted with teenagers? Let alone millionaire teenagers? Blind obedience isn't exactly what they're known for.

Quote from ISaidISaid

Never said any of these things were a good place to be. I just think the place where they are in right now is far worse.

I couldn't disagree more, but there is no point in us going back and forth on this topic clearly neither one of us is going to budge on.

They would be in the same place, on hiatus, except with no protection, no legal team, no new song, no creative team or clear direction, and really no tangible plans.

The fact HYBE upended OG ADOR and then had the audacity to blame MHJ for all the planned activities not happening as scheduled told me all I needed to know.

Quote from ISaidISaid

Not orders. Coercion is often not an order at all. It’s making everything around them feel in a way that certain choices are the only choices they have.

Yes. I agree. HYBE treated them so poorly before and after the audit announcement that NJZ was coerced by HYBE's blatant incompetence and malice to terminate their contracts.

Quote from ISaidISaid

I never claimed that their life would be ideal. Nor am I dismissing how they feel.

But if they were advised that a long drawn out court case where they are scrutinized and berated is better than adjusting even if they’re uncomfortable at HYBE : they were not advised right.

People, even adults, can be advised and explained about the bigger picture.

Sure they felt uneasy but someone had to tell them that contesting this feeling is better than fighting than an outright public battle and I don’t agree with that person.

Again it’s NOT whether any situation is ideal. But it’s about the choice of which situation is less bad.

IMO the place where they are right now is the worst place to be. Far worse than less promo or some changes they have to endure in HYBE.

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HYBE wanted to put them on vacation for almost two years, when they had already been on "vacation" for 3 years, and they were openly hostile towards them behind closed doors. The new CEO even said he wanted to ruin their reputation.

Being dungeoned and handcuffed and silenced while your captors destroy your career and momentum is not preferable to deciding to fight and defend your work, reputation and the team who made it all possible.

You are severely downplaying what HYBE planned to do with them or had already done. They literally did NOT want NJZ to be their most successful girl group and wanted them to be a stepping stone for the girl groups that had no MHJ involvement.

Advocating that they silently endure that miserable experience is a dehumanizing take.

Danielle said during a live stream that she spoke with her father for HOURS one night about everything on her mind.

It's almost comically disrespectful to think these girls are just blindly following "orders" and not carefully considering and discussing the pros and cons of every major decision they make and action they take.

Quote from ISaidISaid

I don’t think they truly thought about their choices

You can have this opinion, but it's blatantly disrespectful and judgemental towards NJZ and demeans their ability to think and evaluate a situation for themselves.

Quote from ISaidISaid

or were advised right.

This is a fair opinion to have, regardless of whether I agree or disagree with it.

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The question is not whether that situation is ideal but only if that’s better or worse than being on hiatus for a year doing a court battle with so much public scrutiny. And idk I can’t really see teens who just saw success to completely disregard all that without coercion.

Yes, going to a company whose CEO is on record stating he wants to ruin them, whose Chairman received weekly reports that only discussed NewJeans in the context of how they could benefit LSF, whose Head of PR was calling media outlets to downplay their success in Japan, and whose previous CEO discussed sidelining them for almost 2 years, is objectively worse than leaving.

I don't know why people fight so hard to invalidate how the most affected party in this feel about their work environment. They chose not being miserable and afraid all the time over whatever compromised success HYBE MIGHT have given them.

They are teens, not infants. Did nobody here ever have to make decisions for themselves and their best interests ever at that age? Yes, MHJ has her influence, but NJZ can think for themselves and make decisions after evaluating the facts only they would be privy to.

I refuse to believe artists would be this adamant about how a company treats them behind closed doors without it being true, especially in this industry. This industry treats them as products, but we all know they're people.

They don't want to be there any more. Can we acknowledge that is really all that matters outside of the stale "THEN PAY THE FINES!!!" rhetoric that gets chanted like a mantra almost daily.

Quote from StanGIDLE

I will be bold and say none of the groups listed will meet the op criteria in 2025.

Blackpink comeback will steal attention from these groups. Then the current top 4th gen groups will steal shine from them. The only smash hit form 5th gen last year was magnetic and possibly Sticky. Other than those 2 songs I can't remember a song from these groups that meets OP's criteria

For argument sake my wildcard pick would be Qwer. They might not be big among international fans but they had 2 singles ("TBH" and " My Name Is Malguem" that peaked in the top 5 in 2024.

I knew I was forgetting someone. Let me add Kiss of Life.

Quote from pchromo4

But I thought it was a primarily Illit fan account? And they followed other Illit fan accounts in the same day. I'm just saying it's not confirmed they were keeping tabs on anti NJ tweets any more-so than NJ themselves would be keeping tabs on Talytokki being messy on Twitter despite DMing her there. There's enough other stuff than sensationalizing more trivial matters.

Belift uploading a video with material sourced from DC Gallery is even worse, you know.

That's like MHJ releasing a video that sources posts from 4chan. Except maybe even worse.

I don't think any of this is trivial, seeing how HYBE would want NJZ to work WITH these people in their ideal world.

It's been a year since Magnetic. ILLIT need to prove it wasn't a once in a career type hit.

What did we get after Attention and Hype Boy? Freaking Ditto.

What did we get after Eleven? LOVE DIVE.

What dropped after Fearless? Antifragile.

Relative to the top tier songs of this era, Cherish was a total flop.

That's why I'm putting ILLIT in with the others.