As it should
Such a deserving SOTY
As it should
Such a deserving SOTY
Display MoreI already created some scenarios for dominate's european leg
1. They will go full arenas in multiple cities and then maybe come back months later for a stadium encore (similar to Blackpink)
2. They will do a mix of arenas and stadiums. Maybe one in France and/or UK and arenas in the rest of the dates.
3. They will go full stadiums, but having selective few dates, forcing the fans to travel to specific countries they will perform.
What is the best?
Hmm, I'd say 2 is best.. A nice mix of both right away.
Personally I'll try to go to arena if this is ends up being what they do. Not just because it'd most likely be more convenient considering travelling, but also I prefer it to not be so huge
The only time they promoted in Europe before last year was when they did their showcase tour in very small venues in 2019. I was almost sure they'd extend Maniac Tour to there, but the continent was completely ignored. Actually, most K-pop agencies has been ignoring some of their biggest music markets in the world within Europe, It's like US is the only place they are able to expand outside Asia.
On top of my head, I remember of BLACKPINK with 'The Album' and 'BORN PINK' reaching #2 and #1 on UK Charts respectively and ATEEZ's last two albums reaching #2 and #4. SKZ could totally reach #1 with said distribution to respect UK Charts' rules, they already chart with streaming and digital only.
Interesting, let's hope they Stray Kids will also get this!
I'm very curious as to how big the scale of the European leg of the tour will be.
Since last year they've been taking advantage of their popularity in Europe. Finally. They have such a big fandom there that was being ignored for years.
Now we want album distribution on UK with special versions without gifts to count on UK Charts...
One of the things that stand out with SKZ and their popularity, is their reach here in Europe. It's hard for kpop acts to get such a big fandom in European countries, and SKZ have such rare popularity here despite not doing much for it. They haven't even toured here.. at all. I was kinda shocked Maniac tour excluded Europe, especially considering much much less popular groups tour in at least some countries here.
So yes I hope they continue to take advantage of their European popularity, also so that they can grow more and reach their potential. I'm curious how big they can get if JYP actually really goes for it.
Do other kpop group have UK special versions that you know of?
Pretty!
Love them for dropping soty and then just chilling out and about together
She ain't even good looking neither is chaewon
No. I think that's very unlikely.
Display MoreI have been in kpop for over a decade and I have lost count on the times that I have seen male fans talk about 'rabid and hormonal fangirls that love their oppars'.
It was said with a sense of superiority that they were better fans and more logical, despite the fact that even in smaller numbers back then, there were quite a few of them that matched female fans in toxicity. Not to mention the fact that they dropped their faves when they turned 25 or created fap pages. But in their minds, they were still better than female fans somehow, lmao.
It's like when people talk about Taylor Swift fans when they see them singing loudly. It is seen as something to be ridiculed as hysterical whereas sports fans are seen as passionate, even when they behave in a worse way.
Now that there's the rise of the 4th kpop gen and ggs ruling it, it was even more obvious that male fans can be extremely toxic. The biggest trolls and the ones who tend to go lower when it comes to their posts are male gg stans.
Of course, it is not right to generalize but female fans didn't escape this so I don't think people will do this courtesy to male fans.
Exactly. Girls/women can't like anything ever without a version of the "you're just a crazy blind teenager" comments. There's misogynistic comments towards female fans treating them as horny idiots posted in every kpop space constantly, usually made by male fans. All the while (despite being in the minority) male fans themselves still manage to do such a big part of the most gross things, both to fans and to idols. Female fans never escaped judgmental generalizations (+ misogyny), why would male?
Stray Kids will become the 3rd most streamed kpop group in Spotify history in not long. They do also have the most streamed song on Spotify among 4th gen BGs if that's what you're saying, God's Menu is the most streamed 4th gen BG song on both Spotify and YT.
Display MoreCongratulations on receiving your first essay. Your combination of words was enough to provoke one.
For me personally, all those things you mentioned are great and worthy of praise...but you have to be better than nugu with the general public at least. Everything posted in support of Stray Kids has been indicators of a powerful fandom. That's great.
But the legendary boy groups had both powerful fandoms and the public dancing in the palm of their hands to their hit songs.
You mentioned Super Junior. Does Stray Kids have any song even half as iconic as Sorry Sorry?
And if people rank the top...20 iconic songs of fourth generation, I don't think a single Stray Kids song makes the list.
To be fair, a good 4th of the list would be NewJeans songs and then IVE songs after them but still...
Thanks, finally a part of the forum now I feel.
I get your point, Stray Kids' digitals in SK are indeed much lower than one would expect considering other numbers. But like I said, imo everything else is so big that it outweighs it and they're still one of the biggest kpop groups overall. And many hold this opinion, including people who don't like them. There's not an easy right or wrong here when the criteria for the discussion isn't specified. It seems meaningless to discuss groups when we don't agree from the start about what matters more and by how much.
Apart from me and Elliah, I've never seen any of the people commenting here defining themselves as Stray Kids fans, they just disagree with you.
And talking about myself, I'm not even remotely offended by the thread. I LOVE discussing their career, It's a hobby. Even If other people disagree with me.
It's almost just you and me on this entire forum that are active and Stray Kids fans lmaoo