Posts by Timiblaga

Quote from Jeop

It's not about lack of manners. BHS seems quite able to act mannerful when meeting LSF, amongst others. When that sort of shit only happens to a specific target, it's singling them out. And it becomes part of something called "workplace harassment". Especially when done by the boss.

But because your oppas were treated like shit then nobody has a right to complain when the people holding their exclusive contract and future in their hand want to screw them over, I guess.

Comeback when you know what workplace harassment really is...

Quote from Jeop

Your entire account is in this thread, so 100% of your posts are about NJ/MHJ/ador and you try to drop that line?

Mirror, glass houses, pick your metaphor

Show me a comment where i praise or give my support to Hybe if you think that me commenting on this thread is a valid reason to call me a company stan, sherlock

Quote from YamaChwan

They're not your kids, and I somehow doubt you have the required experience to give parenting advice or even attempt to put yourself in their shoes. Your comments have been largely absent of rational argumentation, so it makes your cries for rational complaints fall on deaf ears like a NewJeans member greeting to BSH on the elevator.

This compulsory need for people to trivialize every valid grievance and harmful decision Hybe has made clearly with the intent to undermine NewJeans and ADOR should be studied, because it's truly fascinating.

I still don't understand why ifans specifically are fighting so hard for Hybe. What is the reason? Do you have pension money with them? Are you on the board? Is BSH in the room with us right now?

I just need to know WHY people seem willing to DIE for Hybe's precious bottom line.

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Yeah, poor NJ, 2 years old group ,living in misery in their luxurioous dorm with 4 M in their back account, mistreated in the bulding basement without seeing the light of day, they had to beg people on the streets for money to debut, without platform, without connections, training in rooms full of cockroaches.

The did themselves, bravo.

For you all complaining about Hybe supporters, Hybe name appears more in your comments than in the ones from the supossed company stans, it seems hat the ones obsessed with them are you all..

I dont think that its that hard to understand, at least for someone... normal, but here we go again, the claims that they did, catalogued by them as mistreatment, are stupid, i dont care if the company is Hybe, SM, YG or whatever, the claims are plain stupid, once again, Hybe can sucks my ass and the claims are still stupid.

And please, i have read your comments, dont come here to give me lessons about rational thinking....it's laughlable.

Quote from sveznalica

This is not specific only towards you BUT I feel like most people who are saying this now are almost always part of "XY idol didn't bow 90° down to my oppa" gang.

It is basic respect when someone greets you, for you to greet them back.

With that being said NJ definitely did benefit a lot from Hybe but it is very obvious here that Hybe doesn't want them and anything related to MHJ anymore.

I think that we all understand what manners are, and that the logical and respectful thing to do if someone greets you is greeting them back, the issue here is that the accusation is about mistreatment, not about lack of manners.

Someone considering not greeting as mistreatment, with the amount of shit that you to endure in kpop industry, is hilarious at the same time that concerning.

Quote from LCJK

I don’t believe any judge would accept anything I have seen here as mistreatment.

As for the parents, since she’s trying to form her own company, I bet you she promised them shares. It’s just pure greed.

It seems to me that the parents think that their daughters are the last coca cola in the desert, that the money invested in them grew up from a tree and the company in which they debuted appeared magically wit MHJ as CEO.

I would shut my mouth if they would had rational complaints and not whinings about some childish bullshit.

Quote from bobsyouruncle

lmao we've had commentators bring up BTS and start calling Newjeans entitled and spoiled in relation to all the suffering BTS went through, even had someone come in here and call them ungrateful because BTS built that company from the ground up!! and you expect us to not call it out?

when most of the defence for HYBE thats being done in this thread is in relation to BTS then what else would I call these users but the company stans they actually are?

I reply by allegations because it seems that the reading comprehension here is lacking...

That I complain about NJ, their parents and MHJ attitude does not mean that i am defending Hybe, that you link both is ridiculous, even more ridiculous is calling me a company stan just because i dont like their attitude, if you can show me a comment of mine where i give my unconditional support and respect to Hybe or where i praise them, i would be so grateful, if dont, then dont make assumptions.

And yeah, IF the statements, complaints, etc from MHJ,NJ,and their parents are true, they are entitled, spoiled and ungrateful, i compare it with BTS because its the only artist that i follow, but i suppose its applicable for the whole kpop world.

They got all the funds, the promo, the deals, the platform, the best facilities for their training and work, they get a luxurious dorm, 4M dollars each one and still their whole drama is the boss did not greet me, another group debuted earlier, another group is copying our style...sorry, this just sounds so entitled, spoiled and ungrateful, first because there are childish claims, second, because if others copied their style, they copied jpop groups style , nothing original,so their claims are even more entitled.

I said this in another comment, i wll repeat it again, that Hybe is shit and has blame too does not make MHJ and her whole troupe righteous.

I have read that their parents complaints are

-One of their girls did not like that BPD did not say hi to her in the elevator

-They are stressed because people compare illit with NJ

-They did not get the promised holidays

I am not going to talk about legal procedures because we dont know what proofs Hybe has.

But i am going to say one thing, if their problems are the ones that i put above, they deserved a long life hiatus.

get down from your horse and look around, see how other are treated in kpop and getting paid not even a 10% of what you are getting paid, you are not princesses.

This woman worked for SM/ entertaiment industry 17 years, 17! whoever believes the " idk viral", notice for you, santa is the parents.

she tries to portrait herself and people make her to be some clueless naive and poor rookie who knows nothing about entertainment industry, how she is the innocent sheep surrounded by wolves.. again, she worked for SM 17 years, the amount of bullshit that she had to see o even take part could be giganormous.

That hybe is shit does not make this woman righteous.

It's funny (not really) how whoever attacks BTS with sales issues, sagaegi or whatever, when it's the only group who sticked to 4 versions or even just 2 in their albums while some others could release 11 or more versions to boost the sales and making it to lool like they are more famous than they really are or selling a pack with 4 albums but with the price of 1 album.

Funny too (not really) when their promo practically has been non existent , no deals with Spotify like BP, no top hit playlist top spots even if the song got n1 on hot 100, no radio airplay, BH did not even promote them on Instagram

In regards to knets,, i have always said this, they are ungratefu bishes, Korea does not deserve BTS, they were the one who put the country on the map, they passed to be known as the country with most suicide rate to be the country of BTS, boost the economy and they pay them like this.

Quote from sveznalica

It is, from she is too greedy to she should invest in hair clips comments... there is definitely underlying misogyny going on against her.

I don't like how many things she is accused of are same things men she is going against are doing yet they get almost no flack.

Edit: and to add that I think many people are not even doing it intentionally? It is ingrained in their brain... which is a bit 🤨

Or because she has exposed herself in a way than the others did not.

Watching the press conf , you could already see through her.

Puting aside that she contradicts herself a lot, which says that she is not very honest, she is quite malicious too, definitely a good person would not go to a shaman to ask them to do something to send another group away becuse she considers them an obstacle.

She got other groups into the war, naming them in every statement, on top of that, complaining about mistreatment and prmo, when NJ are the most promoted group in evey way, she was granted with a company, with all the possible funds, connections and platform, they put her as CEO and paid for everything, even lend her the money to purchases the shares, so i dont even need to discuss about money, she is greedy as hell

Hybe is always behind the scenes, the communication is almost always through their lawyers and barely put themselves in the front line, they are greedy, they are hipocrite too, but you dont see those flaws in full display like we saw with MHJ

Its not easy to not think that behind all these attacks towards BTS is MHJ and her master plan...

The should investigate the one that they gave to EXO in 2017, and that rightfully belonged to BTS ...

Quote from bobsyouruncle

This whole situation just further exposed how terrible HYBEs PR is and how much they've been relying on fandoms to do their defending, the way they're full on stumbling around right now is just sad lol.

They must be very confident in their legal case.

HYBE or BH relied on fandoms for everything, even the subbing, not now but before it was a mess, we were fighting for subs until, idk, 2020? with all the money that a certain group whose name must not be said gave the company, and they could not even hire a couple of translators.

In what world Christians who are fighting against a demonic cult , like Archangel, the one and only savior of pubescents and 90's jpop, previously known as MHJ, go to a SHAMAN to ask them to do some spell to fuck over other people so she can have things easier?..

Knetz confirming their intelectual poverty once again.

Quote from ABoredStan

Im actually not entirely sure honestly, since no other evidence came out. I think there was an article released including an Executive from ADOR who did have those notes down, however, he stated that MHJ and all other Executives did not know or is aware of those notes. The notes were more of a scenarios that he thought of. Its kind of like talking shit to the company, but then it all get reviewed because your boss found and read your laptop; Source from ALLKPOP.

So if this is all Hybe got on MHJ, then they really don't have anything at all, and because of this the stans are running wild with what ever narrations they can think of to fuel fire.

Again, Hybe might actually have some real evidence in this 'take over' from MHJ- we don't know until court case.

In their response to the press conf, they detailed what they had on her and what they found could not be considered a "thought" but a plan, my rational mind says that if they went to police and filled a criminal whatever, its because they have proofs and their lawyers told them that it was feasible, i dont think that any lawyer would make their clients to waste the time knowing that there is no case.

Quote from DaisyTheGenuine

The so called valid remarks being you ignoring everything I said about NewJeans welfare being impacted just to rant about apartments, some jpop group from 40 years ago and some playlisting.

I'm not wasting my time on corporate bootlicke

"possible bias against them" that is the only thing that you said that could be interpreted as a welfare thing, if you consider that with the treatment that they recieve ,( all those advantages and benefits that i named and you say that is solely a ranting), they are mistreated, seriously, get it checked because you have some issue with reality perception, or you are ungrateful and childish too.

Again, if you dont have anything intelligent with what to discuss, save your futile remarks or at least try to provide some background where I, unconditionally, defend the company... bcause if you think that I am a company stan just because in this instance and provided by the info that was given to the public, my opnion goes against the parents, check that too.

You just have to spend your time defending what you believe instead of quoting people , me exactly, to try to convince me of something that i dont see.

Sometimes Bad people do something right and sometimes good people do something wrong,

Quote from DaisyTheGenuine

Does licking the fat man's sweaty loafers taste that good?

It seems that their parents are not the only childish here.

When you have something interesting to discuss about what i said, waste my time, meanwhile you can save your nasty remarks for that fat man instead for the one who is making valid points.

or cry on the corner because your girls are so poorly treated, I hope that hey get real poor treatment from now on so you all can complain with reasons.

Quote from DaisyTheGenuine

Put yourself in their position instead of making everything about BTS.

You tell the label CEO to make a private internal complaint about an issue that could affect your daughter's career and shows possible bias against them.

The parent company rejects this in a way that you deem unsatisfactory.

You let the issue drop

A few weeks later with no warning to you, the parent company publicly tries to oust the label CEO that has been handling your daughter up until this point, leaks information about your daughter's pay, tries to implicate you in her coup attempt, leaks the fact that you were behind the private internal complaint and now both you and your child are being harassed in the media, called traitors, the next 5050 and people are demanding you get blacklisted from the industry because of their mediaplay. This has negative psychological consequences for your children that are used as fodder in a power struggle

I would not be contacting them right now either

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I am going to put myself in the situation without naming BTS just for your enjoyment and satisfaction...

I have a daughter that after 1 year of contract is paid with more than 4B, without having to pay a training debt, a luxury building with the best facilities to train, work...she sleeps in a luxury dorm and is granted with the best of brand deals, the best of promos, the most money funds, the streaming platform deals to boost the songs, the best of connections that can help them with their careers but I decide to complain because a group from the same company debut earlier than than my daughter group, and another group lookalike them, groups that have the same rights that my daughter group.

The company dismiss my complain, so i stay quiet.

A few weeks later, the parent company try to publicly out the CEO who handles my daughter, CEO who alledgedly tried to do something illegal, and the CEO who was the first to drop the name of my daughter, and not just her and her group, other groups from the same label, putting them as copycats and whatnot

so those groups end up being bashed because that CEO is getting pitied due to a 2 hour press conference where she cries without tears and moves hands hysterically, then the parent company hast to release a statement where gives details about this and that.

IDK, maybe I have all my ducks in lane, but with he info that we now, that is the one thet i provided, maybe, just maybe, there is none who is bias agaist them, quite the opposite.

Maybe they have the right to complain, that does not mean that their complaints are not childish

Maybe the company did not respond the complaint because I really dont know what they expect, buy a time machine, go back in time, and debut them before than LSF, or change the Jpopish 90 style from Illit , style that supossedly was invented by MHj and its seems that is forbidden to replicate because MHJ, NJ and their parents have the intelectual property.

And maybe, if what we know is the truth, if MHJ would not have done anything illegal behind their backs, thi would have not happened.

So yeah, I put myself in their position and i dont undertand it or them.

Quote from DaisyTheGenuine

Min HeeJin and her crazy shaman never had any say in sending BTS to the military to begin with. Nobody cares

2nd: Nobody knows who handles what for NewJeans and whether it comes down to Hybe or Ador.

3rd: if there's something they feel could potentially negatively impact their daughters careers, there is nothing wrong with parents making that complaint privately. That's why the complaint system exists. Even internally, the ill-it issue was polarizing. BTS has no relevance here

If shamanism is bullshit believed by fools is not the point, the point is that MHJ believes in it and thinks that it works, so her intentions were malicious towards them to begin with.

who handles what? what they have is provided by Hybe, from the salary, to the place where they train, the dorm, the funds, the connections, the platform, the brand...because that their brand is connected to Hybe is a plus since Hybe is connected to BTS, you can be bothered by it, but if they would not be attached to hybe in any way, they would never have had all those deals even if their song was a success.

So yeah, Ador did not provide that much.

what we know until now, unless i missed something, is that they complained because Illit copicat and LSF debuted sooner, if this is their problem because it could impact negatively their daughters , if this makes them so upset to the point of blocking any convo, dimissing all the good things that their daughter could enjoy and have, i repit myself, i see them as very ungrateful aside childish people.

Quote from DaisyTheGenuine

We fucking get it.

BTS big

BTS rich

BTS build Hybe

All Hybe group success BTS's

Do you all have to spazz out that BTS isn't being sucked up to 24/7 in situations where they arent involved? What does BTS sleeping on the floor 10 some years ago have to do with parents being upset with Hybe?

Every large company had a huge group that brought them to the top, the groups after aren't slaves to that one group. Get over it already

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You are missing the whole point, the thing is that those girls are treated the best way possible, but their parents still have complaints? I said BTS, first, because is thanks to them that they can enjoy this treatment, so its pretty disrespectful supporting a person who tried to hinder them in any way just to get what she wants, secondly, because, in comparison with people who had it bad, yeah, BTS for example, they dont know how lucky they are debuting with those tons of advantages and benefits, but they still are upset,for what? supposed copycats and one group debuting before them? again, they stick to me as very ungrateful people.