Posts by Fjxgjcujfc

Quote from Sweet-Spice

A bit odd you’re comparing 4th gen to 2nd gen. Does this mean you’ve done the same thing for 3rd, and if so why haven’t you dipped yet?

Been into kpop since early 2nd gen and can’t understand why some people bother sticking around… given their complaints. Things ain’t gonna magically change back to how it was then for you.

Nah, I skipped 3rd gen as I didn't like any of them except for Dreamcatcher which I only discovered last year. I was actually already out of kpop after the release of SNSD's latest album in 2017. Since then I was just following the SNSD members in their solo activities but don't give a care for the whole of kpop till I discovered STAYC shortly before their debut and pulled me back in.

I'm not really complaining. I am just stating an opinion and what I have observed in the 1 and a half year since I've been back. And for now I am still staying because there are still 4 groups that makes me really excited; SNSD, STAYC, Dreamcatcher, and woo!ah!.

Quote from silentmoon

Wasn't this 4minute? not Sistar

2014 MAMA, it's Sistar. 4minute was not even nominated.

I find kpop really boring now specially compared to the 2nd gen. Here are my reasons:

1. Idols don't appear much in TV variety/reality shows now. Before we have shows like Hello Baby, Invincible Youth, Strong Heart, Star Golden Bell, early days of Running Man, et.al.. Now it's just mostly online contents which are boring more often than not.

2. Due to much shorter average training years now members of rookie groups are usually not that close and don't know much about each other which results to awkward interactions and boring contents.

3. There are no more rivalries in kpop now. Before we have legendary rivalries like H.O.T vs. Sechskies, SES vs. Fin.K.L, SNSD vs. Wonder Girls/2ne1

4. Fanwars are no more fun, it's just pure toxic now. Who would've forgotten the legendary fanwar for the best female group of 2014 between SNSD and 2ne1 only for Sistar to win the award.

5. Idols and fans can barely talk or do anything now because everything has become offensive. Almost all jokes now are offensive. You tease your co-member a little and it's already offensive or bullying.

Out of all the groups that I am following now the only ones who I find to be really fun are STAYC and Dreamcatcher. Luckily SNSD will soon have a TV show and a comeback. That ought to bring some fun back to kpop.

Reading the responses in here I can conclude that the standards in kpop have fallen off a cliff. For younger fans out there you should know that there was actually a time in kpop when it was all about talent.

Quote from Minazuki

The moment you say an artist or group is overhyped/overrated, you are implying your taste and preferences are above others and should be determining what is popular and what is not. Get off your high horse, you aren't that special, lol.

You don't need superior taste and preferences to know if something is overrated/overhyped. I loved Pokemon Go but I know it's overhyped. I love Starbucks but I know it's overrated. Caviar is really popular and expensive but it tastes just like salt. Millions of people loves drinking alcoholic beverages but everyone knows that without flavoring it tastes horrible. I can give hundreds of examples but I'm sure you already get my point. Maybe by making that comment you thought you are so smart. Get off your high horse, you aren't that smart, lol.

Frankly, IVE is not in the top tier in any category. Vocals; they barely sings live and when they do it sounds horrible. Their main vocals, Yujin and Liz, have lovely voices but in terms of singing they won't even make it as main vocals if they had debuted in the 2nd gen. Dancing; their dancing skills are just so-so and they also have problems with synchronicity and lazy dancing. They also don't have a good enough dancer to be called a main dancer. Visuals; they're effin beautiful but there are tons of groups in the 4th gen with higher or at least same group visual level as them. Just off the top of my head there're STAYC, woo!ah!, MAJORS, ICHILLIN', Weeekly, Fromis_9, ALICE. Songs; though their songs have catchy hooks they are also bland and vocally unimpressive. Though I do concede that Rei is a good rapper. Contents; I've watched all of their contents on their channel and it's just really flat, awkward, and kinda plastic.

I'm happy for them that they are successful but it's curious what really catches the attention of kpop fans. Obviously it's not always talent.