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    LMAO YAAAAAS

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    That's not The Great Escape or Karma Butterfly...


    But I'll take it!

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    SNSD

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    Omg... She doesnt need to be BFF with them! She knew them, they obviously hang out together (eat and drink).

    And even if we go by your "logic" that someone famous as Hyoyeon just goes and drinks and eats with random people all the time, she befriended them that night. They were together and drank and ate together that night aka befriend each other.

    Also, those things happen probably most of the time when she performs. It is 1 of the reasons why I said that she is in those "waters" and she knows reputation of the clubs and people.. And why I said that she knows them. After the most performances, she will stay and hung out a little with her friends and staff in VIP part of the club (or you think that someone famous as her wont be a VIP guest???????). It is how the things go.

    Alright now we're straying further and further away from your argument that she somehow knew what shady stuff was happening in the club. So I'll just list some of the facts that we know, with zero assumptions.


    Hyoyeon's set was 30 minutes from 12:30-1:00 am

    Timed CCTV footage of the incident that happened starts at around 7 AM (6 hours later)

    And finally, Hyoyeon says that after the performance she had a drink and some food with a friend, then went home.

    https://www.soompi.com/article…burning-sun-event-in-2018

    This is befriending the staff btw.. If your friends, staff and you congratulate/eat/drink together, it is called befriending and you have to have some "history" with them to do so. Noone will go and eat/drink with someone they see first time in the life, especially if the person in question is famous. Right?

    That's not how any of this works at all!


    You're telling me you're friends with all the people you've went out to drink with or met while going out drinking, to the point you know if they have a criminal background? This is what you've been suggesting all this time? That Hyoyeon, on that one night, had one drink and some food with a friend and supposedly some staff the she supposedly knew already, and suddenly she's told all about the hidden shady business of the club? What the hell...

    Do you go to the clubs? And did you be there when someone perform? Did you see the "dynamic" of the things with your eyes? By the way you replay, I dont think so.

    Yes, her business is being DJ which is highly connected to the clubs in which she performs.

    And how am I twisting her words? I basically quoted her words and I will do it again: "I greeted some people, had a few drinks with my friends who came to congratulate me on my performance as well as STAFF because I felt happy, had pork belly with them, and went home! I think I saw men and women drooling on each other and hooking up in the club, but I never saw or heard any actors, actresses, cats, or dogs."

    It is not hard to see things... Clubs have reputation too and things are pretty visible. If you are in those "waters" (which you must be as DJ), you know reputation of the clubs and powerfull people in them.

    The end.

    Yes, I've been to clubs and sometimes I've been to clubs to see a specific DJ perform (as an EDM fan).


    And even if I was someone who doesn't go to clubs, I fail to see how this ad hominem is relevant to me just asking you to prove your claims (which you still haven't provided). Because otherwise you're arguing based on your completely wild speculations.


    Anyways, Hyoyeon's sentence means her friend came to congratulate her as well as the staff. The English translation is not fully grammatically correct but if you check another translation (from Soompi)

    "I greeted many people and had a drink with a friend who came to congratulate me on the performance and the staff members, and in a good mood I had pork belly as a hangover cure~ Then I came home!"


    Source: https://www.soompi.com/article…burning-sun-event-in-2018


    How do you get "she was friend with staff" (your words)?

    Bc it is business after all? She needs to sit with them and talk or she needs some connections. She doesnt just come and go while having 0 contact with everyone else.

    And she SAID that she was friend with staff, greeted them and hung out a little before going home.

    Also, to know ins and outs of the club isnt very hard.. Especially if you have friends there or if your business is connected to it.

    She never said she was friends with the staff. She said a friend congratulated her and the staff.


    What business are you talking about? Outside of being hired as a DJ (and not only for clubs, she also performs at festivals), she doesn't have any other business with clubs.


    This is your original reply: "Just by being in the same company, you should get some things and ideas about what is going on"

    You still haven't shown proof that she is part of the company, and now you're making further claims (like her knowing the VIP guests, her being a VIP guest) without proof.


    Also, I'm kindly asking you to stop distorting and changing Hyoyeon's words.

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    I read it and it says if you didnt see: "I greeted some people, had a few drinks with my friends who came to congratulate me on my performance and the staff because I felt happy, had pork belly with them and went home!". If you dont know, greeting, drinking and eating with someone is being in the company with those people. She even said that she had friends among them. So I dont get at all what you wanted to show with this. Did you want to comfirm my words?

    She greeted some people.

    She had a drink with friend/friends who congratulated her and the staff.

    Then she had pork belly with them.

    Where does it say that she works for the Burning Sun company? Where does it say she had friends among Burning Sun staff? What is your other source?

    If we will be honest, probably a BIG part of Korean entertainment industry + rich and powerfull people are in this. About Hyoyeon, I doubt that she had no idea about anything. Just by being in the same company, you should get some things and ideas about what is going on. Ofc, she wasnt part of it probably directly, but imo she knew about what is going on and such things. The same goes for the staff of the club and everyone who went there often or were close to people involved. Anyone of those people should know and probably knew what is going on, they just didnt say it.

    She wasn't in the same company. She was hired for that one night, did her job as a DJ and left.

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    https://www.soompi.com/article…burning-sun-event-in-2018

    I've seen these numbers before (as a picture), but I've never seen proof for it.

    The last K-drama I watched was Private Lives. If I have the time I will watch Hush next.