RE : IVE don't feel like a popular group.

Because they don't come from big4 that's why.

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IVE don't feel like a popular group.

So before you come at me, I do realise that they're currently one of the most popular 4th gen girl groups. What I'm saying is that somehow they don't feel like it. If you showed me just their music and performances, I'd say they're mid-tier at best. Their music and image lacks....something? Itzy brought something new to the table, and so have Idle, and Aespa. IVE's music and concept is okay but doesn't have that something the other three do.

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May 11th 2022

Quote from Baked Saffron Rabbit (244)

They were just SUPER lucky with the timing of their debut. The charts were empty which gave them the perfect time to win fast. Then people are like "wow they won so quickly, they must be a big thing" so everyone started checking them out. A similar phenomenon happened with (G)i-dle. Had either groups debut while their was lots of competition on the charts, they'd likely be mid tier today. So I get what you're saying. I just wish Korea checked out these mid tier groups more because they have the best quality music.

Eleven is still top20 after 5 months. U act like every group can get hit under no competition. Some flop hard still. Also love dive was released at a time when many hits were present.

Also luck plays a part in every group's success or lack of it