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None of the new groups no. But their achievements aren’t so out of this world that it’s impossible to imagine a gg or bg breaking their records.
Why do you think it won’t be any current new groups?
Tbh by the time 5th gen comes along kpop might have peaked as a genre over the world, so I’m unsure if any group outside of 4th gen groups can match Blackpink
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BP has the right image and music for international success, I don't see any actual group with the same western appeal like them. IVE could do well internationally if they keep releasing songs like eleven but i don't think they will be able to reach bp level. Who knows there are still a lot of groups left to debut and a non big4 group could give the surprise, like someone else said, bp are still miles ahead of any group internationally but I don't think their popularity is that impossible to reach like bts
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it'll be difficult and it's gonna take a lot of time but yes it's possible
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Every group can be overcome, eventually.
In BTS's case it's going to take a very long time and a unique combination of conditions. They've simply cemented themselves too deeply for it to happen so soon and so simply.
BP are not as safe, I don't think. They're impressive, for a girl group. And that's the trouble; their achievements always come with an asterisk: *girl group.
Other girl groups can catch up to their metrics:
Sales might be a bit harder but not totally impossible, everyone and their mother seems to sell close to 1M nowadays.
Their touring doesn't seem that insurmountable either. They're still an arena act. Didn't Twice just recently sell out they're arenas as well?
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Every group can be overcome, eventually.
In BTS's case it's going to take a very long time and a unique combination of conditions. They've simply cemented themselves too deeply for it to happen so soon and so simply.
BP are not as safe, I don't think. They're impressive, for a girl group. And that's the trouble; their achievements always come with an asterisk: *girl group.
Other girl groups can catch up to their metrics:
Sales might be a bit harder but not totally impossible, everyone and their mother seems to sell close to 1M nowadays.
Their touring doesn't seem that insurmountable either. They're still an arena act. Didn't Twice just recently sell out they're arenas as well?
If you take *girl group out of the equation only BTS is above them so this is false, their stats are hella impressive overall. And we don't know BP's actual touring power, the arenas you are using as reference were done almost 3 years ago. They are so much bigger now
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With aespa and IVE's achievements and more interesting girl groups debuting everyday, it does look like it. Lovesick Girls and Ice Cream weren't that impressive and it was their most recent songs as a group. As time pass casual fans will just move on to something more exciting. Will they be able to recreate the same hype HYLT, AIIYL, KTL and DDDD or after such a long time something like that will just feel dated and predictable? If they manage to surprise everyone again, then it will still take a couple of years until they are done.
And it's worth noting these other groups don't have Lisa. Lisa's star power is one in a billion, so it's Blackpink's advantage. As long as BP have Lisa they will keep making massive numbers and being ridiculously popular.
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Bp's weakness is not having enough comebacks and promotions which really weakens their solid feats. Imagine if they actually had same amount of cbs bts/twice did. Although they would never touch bts but the gap wouldn't have been that huge imo I reckon when it comes to streaming numbers and few other achievements. Anyways people here are kinda underestimating their touring numbers. They only have had one tour when they were like a 2 and a half year old group and it became like 5th or 6th largest grossing gg tour in the world. And they have just gotten bigger. Although they won't probably sell stadiums in US or Europe but if they tour this year, it will be huge. Also to answer your question, I do believe newer ggs can surpass their charting in sk and groups surpassing their total sales since I doubt they will ever have sufficient amount of albums under their name, but it will be really hard to touch their overall achievements by another kpop group in near future and plus I doubt there will ever be another kpop gg or even a future bg with such individual star power as the bp girls. Although never say never.
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People forget nct & seventeen only sold more than BP well after they released the album, in late 2020 when they all came back they were very much on par, bts are the only untouchable ones. BP definitely have a bigger fandom and proven touring power unlike the other 2 also
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NCT and seventeen will sell (probably) 3M sales, 4th gen groups will sell 2M soon and groups like enhypen just debuted. If new groups keep growing like this they will be able to reach 4M sales in the future. How much can bp grow before 4th gen groups surpass their sales supposing bp reach 2M mark on the next comeback? No idea about nct and seventeen touring power but 4th gen groups are there for a suprise in the future.
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BP being the top group in Gallup Korea says otherwise, being the most streamed gg in Spotify Korea since the launch says otherwise and their overall popularity.
Twice isn't near their international popularity and if you think it you are just crazy .. for real... See the official charts POSITIONS, streams!!!!!!, and WORLDWIDE CERTIFICATIONS please. Twice just has jp certifications.
You just sound like an anti tbh. BP achievements are impressive and them still being the most popular and talked gg in 2021 despite their hiatus shows it. If surpassing them were that easy, well, they would be already.
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Ngl in South Korea yes they can be surpassed. Some people over here acting like bp Spotify numbers will be surpassed are delusional. Comeback when those kpop groups u name can enter the top50 of Spotify. Bp is untouchable on YouTube. No ads needed . Kpop can't relate.
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i don't think theyve been surpassed in korea yet. bp still topped brand rep and gallup 2021 for ggs despite not doing anything. and while next level was a massive hit, savage isnt even as strong as LSG or HYLT digitally. saying aespa is ahead just based off 1 song doing better is wrong. that's like saying aespa are above IU in korea just because next level did better than IU's latest single
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Korea yes, easily, SNSD were more popular there at their peak anyways, but maybe not internationally, at least not for a while
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In S K, BP is no big deal, it is only since Twice ramping down are they even doing well in digital charts, that too OMG is strong contender and 2021 Brave Girls, Aespa as well
I don't think they are any standard to surpass in Korea.
But internationally, they are definitely a big deal
Though compared to BTS for BGs, Blackpink is probably easier for a future GG to match and surpass.
It definitely is possible, if K-pop keeps this level of interest in the West.
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Everything is possible.
BP don't move like a kpop group and they are more fashion influencers who release music every now and then. They rely on having few songs and free comebacks so every time they release something, it is a hit and an event for kpop.
That will make it difficult for a traditional kpop group with regular comebacks to surpass but after some time it might happen.
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Of course they are, that's the cycle of life. No group stays at the top forever.
Add to this the 4th gen groups that are rising.
Add to this HYBE and YG launching new girl groups and what happened with YG's old girl groups as soon as they were ready to launch a new one.
Add to this that TWICE started to fade in SK since their 4th year and that BP are already in their 6th year.
Groups like Big Bang, SNSD, TVXQ, Wonder Girls, TWICE, EXO and on and on also didn't stay at the top forever, even when K-pop fans thought they would.
So yes, the same will happen with BP too.
Anyone saying otherwise is either delulu or hasn't been into K-pop for long.
Will it happen this year though? I don't think so, but anything can happen.
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