why can,t nct have more listeners or streams like stray kids, txt or enhyphen?

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Because their music is polarising, it's an acquired taste and not everyone is going to like it. They don't seem to mind, seeing how their team and them are consistent with their sound despite knowing the kind of mixed reception it gets.

Why can't you stop making threads about NCT for 1 day?

i think the obvious answer is music

There are 5 NCT spotify accounts.

because they have songs like sticker in their discography

nctzens get too lazy to stream.

i mean i get too lazy to stream. i listen to the songs often but i never have em on repeat.

i do listen to the same albums a lot though

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Because their music is polarising, it's an acquired taste and not everyone is going to like it. They don't seem to mind, seeing how their team and them are consistent with their sound despite knowing the kind of mixed reception it gets.

I remember calling their music an acquired taste and people taking that as hate.. lol. y'all know who you are

not even their fans like their music enough to stream to match their sales

there's literally 5 NCT accounts, shall we combine streams and numbers ?

nct have 13 million monthly listeners and 3.173 million streams on spotify so they are way bigger than enhypen and txt and whatever and they are the third most popular kpop group in general.

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nctzens get too lazy to stream.

i mean i get too lazy to stream. i listen to the songs often but i never have em on repeat.

i do listen to the same albums a lot though

nah, it's the music.

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not even their fans like their music enough to stream to match their sales

Listening to music to match sales is the stupidest thing I've ever read on this forum. Congrats.

Why do they need to tho? They seem to be doing just fine. Everyone else worries about it but the group and the fans don’t seem to give a fuck.

I swear someone makes a thread about this on anons daily.

Putting the song on repeat isn't what streaming is. Simply listening to the song is streaming. If every nct group can sell 2m albums comfortablybbut can't beat rookies at simply listening to music, then it's understandable that people question why that is.

Nct are a top3 boy group yet their streams on all platforms bar the kcharts are in the gutter. I too wonder why other younger groups get better streams than them.

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Putting the song on repeat isn't what streaming is. Simply listening to the song is streaming. If every nct group can sell 2m albums comfortablybbut can't beat rookies at simply listening to music, then it's understandable that people question why that is.

Nct are a top3 boy group yet their streams on all platforms bar the kcharts are in the gutter. I too wonder why other younger groups get better streams than them.

this is all true but nctzens will never answer the question

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this is all true but nctzens will never answer the question

so you also agree that NCT is a top 3 boy group? cool

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so you also agree that NCT is a top 3 boy group? cool

that wasn't the question though? the question is why their songs tank on streaming platforms.

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that wasn't the question though? the question is why their songs tank on streaming platforms.

i was just making an observation :shyy:

They have a lot of different units, there's a lot going on.

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Putting the song on repeat isn't what streaming is. Simply listening to the song is streaming. If every nct group can sell 2m albums comfortablybbut can't beat rookies at simply listening to music, then it's understandable that people question why that is.

Nct are a top3 boy group yet their streams on all platforms bar the kcharts are in the gutter. I too wonder why other younger groups get better streams than them.

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this is all true but nctzens will never answer the question

We have answered this question several times. We're just tired of it at this point.

Number one, things like streams and views are amassed by casual listeners and NCT don't have many of those because their music is polarising. You either love it or hate it, that's why most of their listeners are hardcore fans.

Number two, mass streaming is a strong suit of kpop fans but not NCTzens. We have all seen that thread about Spotify wrapped where people literally spent hundreds of thousands of minutes streaming music in spotify (up to 400k) and were pretending that's entirely normal while their top 5 often consists of different versions of the same song. It's obviously what's going on there and that's not part of NCTzens fandom culture. We're laidback when it comes to streaming and only consume music to enjoy it. Also in that same thread you can see that the NCTzens here all had NCT at the top of their Spotify artists but I digress.

Number three. There are 4 NCT subunits and 5 Spotify accounts. Even if fans want to mass stream it would be divided by 4th or 5th between all the units and different discographies. Most the groups you all are talking about release one or 2 albums/ep per year, meanwhile NCT released 2 full albums, 2 repacks, 2 EPs and a bunch of separate singles in 2021 alone, not to mention Resonance pt2 which was released around the end of last year. So we have like the quadruple of the music other fandoms have to stream in the same period of time. Not even counting the rest of their huge discography. So it's only natural there would be a limited number of streams per album or unit.

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We have answered this question several times. We're just tired of it at this point.

Number one, things like streams and views are amassed by casual listeners and NCT don't have many of those because their music is polarising. You either love it or hate it, that's why most of their listeners are hardcore fans.

Number two, mass streaming is a strong suit of kpop fans but not NCTzens. We have all seen that thread about Spotify wrapped where people literally spent hundreds of thousands of minutes streaming music in spotify (up to 400k) and were pretending that's entirely normal while their top 5 often consists of different versions of the same song. It's obviously what's going on there and that's not part of NCTzens fandom culture. We're laidback when it comes to streaming and only consume music to enjoy it. Also in that same thread you can see that the NCTzens here all had NCT at the top of their Spotify artists but I digress.

Number three. There are 4 NCT subunits and 5 Spotify accounts. Even if fans want to mass stream it would be divided by 4th or 5th between all the units and different discographies. Most the groups you all are talking about release one or 2 albums/ep per year, meanwhile NCT released 2 full albums, 2 repacks, 2 EPs and a bunch of separate singles in 2021 alone, not to mention Resonance pt2 which was released around the end of last year. So we have like the quadruple of the music other fandoms have to stream in the same period of time. Not even counting the rest of their huge discography. So it's only natural there would be a limited number of streams per album or unit.

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I see nothing wrong with mass streaming. It's a way of supporting your faves.

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I see nothing wrong with mass streaming. It's a way of supporting your faves.

It's a matter of perspective. I refuse to stream music for any other reason aside from my personal enjoyment. I enjoy NCT's music, that's exactly why I stan them and I stream their music but I don't go out of my way to deliberately stream for the sake of amassing numbers.

That being said, I think fans that mass stream songs obsessively for the sake of achievements don't have any right to judge other people's music consumption habits.

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Putting the song on repeat isn't what streaming is. Simply listening to the song is streaming.

Of course. But within Kpop, it is very much a large component of it and trying to act like it’s not is disingenuous.

High streaming numbers are reflective of lots of different people streaming your song (casual users listening to Adele) or a core group repeatedly streaming (many Kpop groups.) Some groups have both.

Fandoms host streaming parties on Twt and forums to boost numbers. Sometimes they host streaming parties to hit targets, get music show wins or earn a spot on a chart (or keep someone else from getting it.)

The Weeknd’s fans are not running streaming parties to boost his totals, just listening to his songs. Mariah Carey gets a boost on streaming because people are excited about Christmas and play her songs.

Again, what happens is Kpop is different to other parts of music. That is the nature of the genre.

Everyone knows NCT is not a group with lots of casual fans, so it is reliant on its fans to boost its numbers. Those numbers are further split across 5 Spotify accounts. As many have noted on this thread, including me, NCTzens aren’t big on things like streaming parties or mass streaming.

However, I just did a search to see just exactly how they’re doing on streaming platforms from an aggregate perspective. On Dec. 1, Apple Music reported NCT 127 as one of their top 10 most streamed Kpop artists worldwide and on Spotify, NCT 127 are among the only 12 Kpop artists with over 1 billion streams.

So clearly, people are listening quite a bit to the music even if it’s not the amount others here and on twt seem to expect it to be.

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We have answered this question several times. We're just tired of it at this point.

Number one, things like streams and views are amassed by casual listeners and NCT don't have many of those because their music is polarising. You either love it or hate it, that's why most of their listeners are hardcore fans.

Number two, mass streaming is a strong suit of kpop fans but not NCTzens. We have all seen that thread about Spotify wrapped where people literally spent hundreds of thousands of minutes streaming music in spotify (up to 400k) and were pretending that's entirely normal while their top 5 often consists of different versions of the same song. It's obviously what's going on there and that's not part of NCTzens fandom culture. We're laidback when it comes to streaming and only consume music to enjoy it. Also in that same thread you can see that the NCTzens here all had NCT at the top of their Spotify artists but I digress.

Number three. There are 4 NCT subunits and 5 Spotify accounts. Even if fans want to mass stream it would be divided by 4th or 5th between all the units and different discographies. Most the groups you all are talking about release one or 2 albums/ep per year, meanwhile NCT released 2 full albums, 2 repacks, 2 EPs and a bunch of separate singles in 2021 alone, not to mention Resonance pt2 which was released around the end of last year. So we have like the quadruple of the music other fandoms have to stream in the same period of time. Not even counting the rest of their huge discography. So it's only natural there would be a limited number of streams per album or unit.

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I agree with you but there was no need for you to make some subtle dig at the users in this site by trying to imply that they're streaming because they don't enjoy the music but rather because of " streaming culture". NCTzens don't have space to talk or shade other fandom cultures when the fandom is known and characterised for its extreme saesang behaviour.

Enhypen and TXT getting lots of streams from armys since armys use their songs to diversify their playlist and many of them are fans or casual listeners. Stray Kids have strong streamers in general. NCT has five spotify accs so streams kinda split, also their music is pretty much experimental so kinda acquired taste not everyone gonna like.

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I agree with you but there was no need for you to make some subtle dig at the users in this site by trying to imply that they're streaming because they don't enjoy the music but rather because of " streaming culture". NCTzens don't have space to talk or shade other fandom cultures when the fandom is known and characterised for its extreme saesang behaviour.

People here can't shut up about NCTzens supposedly not streaming NCT's music because they don't like it, but god forbid anyone criticises other fandoms obviously obsessive mass streaming. Give me a break.

Anyway, I am fully aware of NCT's toxic fans, saseng or otherwise and I denounce them and would never defend them or deny their toxicity. So I fail to see how their mere existence should prevent me from criticising other kpop fans' behaviours.

y’all tend to downplay nct popularity and that’s sad i literally watch thousand of interviews be it SK and Int and almost of them knows and listen to NCT lol this group won’t be a million seller for nothing

their music genuinely sucks

Because they are visual stans obviously. That’s why they massbuy albums for photocards. Sticker with its 20 versions

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We have answered this question several times. We're just tired of it at this point.

Number one, things like streams and views are amassed by casual listeners and NCT don't have many of those because their music is polarising. You either love it or hate it, that's why most of their listeners are hardcore fans.

Number two, mass streaming is a strong suit of kpop fans but not NCTzens. We have all seen that thread about Spotify wrapped where people literally spent hundreds of thousands of minutes streaming music in spotify (up to 400k) and were pretending that's entirely normal while their top 5 often consists of different versions of the same song. It's obviously what's going on there and that's not part of NCTzens fandom culture. We're laidback when it comes to streaming and only consume music to enjoy it. Also in that same thread you can see that the NCTzens here all had NCT at the top of their Spotify artists but I digress.

Number three. There are 4 NCT subunits and 5 Spotify accounts. Even if fans want to mass stream it would be divided by 4th or 5th between all the units and different discographies. Most the groups you all are talking about release one or 2 albums/ep per year, meanwhile NCT released 2 full albums, 2 repacks, 2 EPs and a bunch of separate singles in 2021 alone, not to mention Resonance pt2 which was released around the end of last year. So we have like the quadruple of the music other fandoms have to stream in the same period of time. Not even counting the rest of their huge discography. So it's only natural there would be a limited number of streams per album or unit.

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For hardcore fans that go so hard for sales you will expect them to go hard for streaming too(it’s cheaper too). But alas that dedication does not translate to streaming unlike 4th Gen stans.

Just admit the music is not popping for majority of your fandom

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For hardcore fans that go so hard for sales you will expect them to go hard for streaming too(it’s cheaper too). But alas that dedication does not translate to streaming unlike 4th Gen stans.

Just admit the music is not popping for majority of your fandom

I won't admit no such a thing but I would suggest focusing on your faves instead. I know that NCT must be more interesting but try.

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For hardcore fans that go so hard for sales you will expect them to go hard for streaming too(it’s cheaper too). But alas that dedication does not translate to streaming unlike 4th Gen stans.

Just admit the music is not popping for majority of your fandom

You're really obsessed

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their music genuinely sucks

The question is directed at NCT and not your faves. Answer again after re-reading the title. Rekted

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Number two, mass streaming is a strong suit of kpop fans but not NCTzens. We have all seen that thread about Spotify wrapped where people literally spent hundreds of thousands of minutes streaming music in spotify (up to 400k) and were pretending that's entirely normal while their top 5 often consists of different versions of the same song.

excuses. there's no way to know how many nctzens mass stream. that's not a reason

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For hardcore fans that go so hard for sales you will expect them to go hard for streaming too(it’s cheaper too). But alas that dedication does not translate to streaming unlike 4th Gen stans.

Just admit the music is not popping for majority of your fandom

on your faves and

because you're sounding like a

and a

for no reason

nct will just keep getting

because you guys cannot shut up about them

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Enhypen and TXT getting lots of streams from armys since armys use their songs to diversify their playlist and many of them are fans or casual listeners.

multis exist, army isn't going to stream enhypen or txt on spotify when they can listen to bts instead unless they like the music

their songs are unlistenable unless you're a fan