Am I the only one who hates watching Kpop MVs these days?

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K-pop isn't up to moral things so get used to it

I am, that's why I don't watch a lot of MVs anymore. I always loved story driven MVs anyway. Like, IU - LOVE WINS ALL. Tbf, I only watch MVs if I love the song. The MV is basically just a distraction from the song. It literally makes you think the song is better, and not just in Kpop, btw.

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David is someone who tries to understand things BP related even though he isn't a fan so I talk to him, but you? Nah, you are just saying whatever bc it's BP.

We've come a long way.

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In the future, we're just going to see a lot of MVs using AI. That's just the world we live in now. Do I want it? Nope, I mean even AI artists charts on billboard nowadays

True, I will NEVER call them artists. BTW, didn't Golden Disk just give an award to some AI MV last week? I remember reading that on Twitter.

Hollywood already wants to make a new rule about AI scanning people's faces so they don't have to hire extras, and even actors who passed away. And no one can stop this madness.

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Bruh, every BP MVs are AI generated. Because they have the pinks who always look unreal

After reading the first sentnece.

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Is this AI, or is it that they just got the background data from some photogrammetry provider and didn't bother to touch it up because it's going by quickly? This is exactly what that looks like?

"Most" of the background scenes are AI generated, especially the buildings. It's easy to tell because it has the usual AI flaws. Not accurate. I wouldn't say for 100% sure that their portraits on billboards are AI generated or it's just bad VFX, but the background is definitely AI.

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Heh I was going to make a similar thread, but more broader, about Kpops uses of AI not just in MV's but in promotional material and photos, album covers and eventually possibly music itself.

And how kpop fans will have to reckon with it sooner than many other fandom based industries.

I think the kpop industry will lean into AI generation more and more over the coming months/years, at least for non music side of things, because honestly? I don't see enough backlash occurring from fans to make the idea unpalatable for the companies. In the gaming, tabletop gaming and comics fandoms (other hobbies I'm into), the backlash against companies even sniffing at AI has been immense, immediate and overwhelming and companies quickly burned, and in some cases forced to make statements completely disavowing AI (DC Comics). Hell, look what happened to to Expedition 33, which used a tiny bit of AI at the very early stages of development.

But kpop fans dont seem as collectively opposed and hateful of the idea of AI use. Many of us are against it, yes, but not collectively and I don't think in a strong enough voice to make companies scared of using it. I dare say some will be against it when groups they hate use it, but will defend it when their faves do, the usual bullshit.

Also... and this may be controversial to say... I don't know if the general hatred and opposition to generative AI is as strong in South Korea, Japan, China and other "Eastern" markets. During my time in the past few years holidaying in Japan and China (and UAE as well incidentally) I found AI slop crap was a lot more common and tolerated in advertising, billboards, print media, other genre MV's and stuff like childrens books than I've seen in Western countries. Granted I haven't been in South Korea since the AI Slop Tsunami started, but if China and Japan are using it alot, well... Even some Japanese, Korean and Chinese artists (as in drawings, paintings, sketches, designers, cosplay etc, not just music) I follow, have bought stuff from and usually like have been dabbling in AI a lot more than Western artists and without as much pushback and anger for being "clankers".

Between home and surrounding cultures being a slight bit, if not whole lot more, accepting of AI, fans not being collectively outraged enough and Kpop companies being exactly the kind of Late State Capitalist nightmares we know them to be, I really think even AI haters will have to get used to seeing AI gened non music content in kpop (and jpop and cpop). It's a bitter pill to swallow.

But hopefully the line gets drawn at music... Genuinely, AI generated music in a MUSIC industry is a bridge too far.

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Kpop fans are united? Yeah... we're gonna see Santa getting married before that.

Unless it's about that disgusting Deep fake, people don't speak up about AI. Millions of people love using AI, Kpop fans regularly use Grok on Twitter asking it to fight with other Kpop fans. Saying it provides more accurate info than any other site. Even tho AI is literally gathering the info from comments and articles. 🤣

A lot of Kpop companies using AI for other things, as you said, and many people don't realize it or just don't care. It's gonna be even crazier because AI is getting "better" in terms of quality, and with a little fixing, it looks like actual VFX.

Many people loving the AI-made "Music", and knowing Kpop fans they could never tell if the "singer" is a real person or not. AI can do autotune faster than any real person. It's not as good yet, but it's already close.

There are AI platforms that can fix a shitty audio file to sound like a "studio version", not to mention old pictures.

Creating a nice promo poster for a Kpop album usually takes days of work or even more. Now, you just ask AI to generate some backgrounds, you can fix some minor issues, and you're good to go.

I give them 5 years at max, and no one can ignore AI anymore. It's already in your smart devices, social media etc. Unless you're gonna use old phones and TV and delete your SNS accs, AI is your new "best friend".

You can't even use Google search without AI anymore.

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Anyways, Kpop using AI in MVs is good if it can save some production cost. In the end idols will have to pay that money.

It's not good, no matter how we look at it. Generating with AI literally ruins our ecosystem.

Idols are never gonna get more money just because their agencies using AI, and they won't spend more money on their groups either. They will spend much less actually.

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But those flaws is how photogrammetry looks without a touch-up. Like if you look around Google Earth in less popular locations, it tends to look the same as that, with melted edges and the like.

I would imagine if you tried to generate a cityscape in AI, it actually wouldn't look like that. But I don't know either way. I'm not an expert on AI.

I'm not an expert either, but I'm forced to work with AI as a designer and sound engineer sometimes.

The hardest thing AI can generate is usually buildings and the human body. Buildings usually look bad because AI generates from multiple sources, so the background is not consistent, even if you use prompts, like: "Generate a city like New York.

To be honest, I don't get why people in this industry use AI to generate backgrounds when we have millions of templates for VFX, they just have to download it and fix it.