Do you think some idols falsify their support for minorities?
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For the 100th time i have to reiterate my feelings on this.
I think it's utterly inexplicable that somehow, Kpop has become so popular among the liberal, woke, SJW crowd.
There is NOTHING about Kpop that is woke. Kpop labels are hyper capitalistic fiefdoms run by CEOs that act like Mafia dons. They are pure packaged products to appeal to and be consumed by their younger, impressionable audience. They are products to their fans and just commodities to the CEOS to be used, exploited and thrown away after they age out or become also rans.
There is nothing remotely progressive about Kpop in the music, lyrics, MVs, stages, and ancillary content. The idols want fame, money and to do what they love, Kpop has nothing to do with social movements on either side of the political spectrum.
In fact, most international Kpop fans appear to be in denial about the political beliefs of their faves. We all saw the Magarina scandal that was huge in woke international fandom circles. There were other scandals attacking idols who appear to support MAGA or Trump, idols who were attacked for supporting Israel or just drinking Starbux coffee, etc etc.
But the harsh truth is that prob half of all idols are conservative by our standards. Maybe more. If your fave is from Taegu, Busan, or other parts of the Eastern half of the country, most likely they are conservative to extremely conservative. Born again Christianity is also a huge part of the culture there.
The one saving grace for leftists is that, apparently, at least LGBTQ is becoming more accepted among young people (from conversations with my parents and relatives in Korea). Older people are still opposed, some fiercely, like if i was gay and came out to my parents, they might literally die of a heart attack.
This is the political map of Korea. It's pretty self explanatory i think.
I agree that K-pop is hyper capitalist and consumerist etc. I just want to explain that Liberalism is not at odds with capitalism. Liberalism is pro capitalism. Property rights, being pro market and supporting individualism is a fundamental part of Liberalism.
Liberals in democratic wealthy countries usually encompass both the mainstream left and right centrist parties. Conservatives in democratic systems are usually liberals, when a conservative supports things like Theocracy, Absolute Monarchy, Feudalism etc. That is generally when they would not be considered a liberal.
A left-wing anticapitalist would be found in the traditions of Socialism, Communism, Anarchism etc. There are many sublabels under these categories.
Liberals generally are pro capitalism and pro property more than they are for human rights etc. History tends to show that centrist left-wing liberals will support a far-right Fascist Authoritarian who protects capital over the interests of people.
The Democrats in the United States and the Republican party in the United States are both Liberal, though the current Republicans do have some far-right Fascist tendencies (I may be too generous here as there are arguments to be made at them just being Facists)
The Democrats in the USA are a pro-business, pro-american empire, pro-capitalism etc. Very few if any prominent Democrats at the national level hold any sort of anticapitalist or socialist beliefs. I know the news and propaganda within the US and on social media would disagree, but the USA does not have a pro-labor, anticapitalist left-wing party.
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depends what you mean. I doubt there's many idols, if any, that are straight up lying about supporting and actually are against these minorities, but yea Im very sure they play up their support for the fans.
Like I "support" the minorities you listed, but that support is more indifference. That is to say Im fine with all folks, but Im also not going out of my way to show support or advocate for them. Other than those minority groups Im a part of. Famous people dont always have that choice.
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The Democrats in the USA are a pro-business, pro-american empire, pro-capitalism etc. Very few if any prominent Democrats at the national level hold any sort of anticapitalist or socialist beliefs. I know the news and propaganda within the US and on social media would disagree, but the USA does not have a pro-labor, anticapitalist left-wing party.
While the left has certain frameworks in academia, in contemporary politics it is perceived differently depending on a country's cultural and social perceptions. For example, calling Kamala Harris a communist or socialist in the U.S. seems like a joke to me. This is entirely a socio-cultural perception of the 'left.
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While the left has certain frameworks in academia, in contemporary politics it is perceived differently depending on a country's cultural and social perceptions. For example, calling Kamala Harris a communist or socialist in the U.S. seems like a joke to me. This is entirely a socio-cultural perception of the 'left.
Socialist and Communist are meaningless buzz words in the USA to attack politicians because of the historical negative associations they have with the general public. Though this is changing as Socialism and Communism are losing a lot of the negative stigma it once had especially with younger generations.
Socialism used to be a major political force in the USA especially in the 1860s-1930s. A lot of things that exist in the USA now were advocated for in the past by Socialist. Such as the eight-hour workday, abolition of child labor, minimum wage and overtime pay, social security, unemployment benefits and many other things.
Many working-class people in the USA were killed by the police, private security companies, and federal troops advocating for these things.
In the Great Railroad Strike of 1877 over 100 people were killed etc. This period of American history is called the Great Upheaval and climaxed with the Haymarket massacre in 1886, in where people were on strike for an eight-hour workday.
In 1917 there was a revolution in Oklahoma in which people planned to march on Washington overthrow the federal government, abolish the draft, and pull the USA out of WW1. This was used by the government to discredit the IWW and the Socialist Party of America.
A lot of this stuff is not thought in US schools, I doubt many Americans even know Wall Street was bombed by Anarchist in 1920 or that there was a mail bombing campaign in 1919 targeting anti-immigration politicians. These events were part of what was called the first red scare, which is pretty much forgotten since the cold war and the red scare that is associated with it. The same way it is forgotten that the Great Depression of 1929 isn't the first one in US history and that the Panic of 1873 that lasted until 1877 was also called the Great Depression until the one we all think of now.
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Socialist and Communist are meaningless buzz words in the USA to attack politicians because of the historical negative associations they have with the general public. Though this is changing as Socialism and Communism are losing a lot of the negative stigma it once had especially with younger generations.
Socialism used to be a major political force in the USA especially in the 1860s-1930s. A lot of things that exist in the USA now were advocated for in the past by Socialist. Such as the eight-hour workday, abolition of child labor, minimum wage and overtime pay, social security, unemployment benefits and many other things.
Many working-class people in the USA were killed by the police, private security companies, and federal troops advocating for these things.
In the Great Railroad Strike of 1877 over 100 people were killed etc. This period of American history is called the Great Upheaval and climaxed with the Haymarket massacre in 1886, in where people were on strike for an eight-hour workday.
In 1917 there was a revolution in Oklahoma in which people planned to march on Washington overthrow the federal government, abolish the draft, and pull the USA out of WW1. This was used by the government to discredit the IWW and the Socialist Party of America.
A lot of this stuff is not thought in US schools, I doubt many Americans even know Wall Street was bombed by Anarchist in 1920 or that there was a mail bombing campaign in 1919 targeting anti-immigration politicians. These events were part of what was called the first red scare, which is pretty much forgotten since the cold war and the red scare that is associated with it. The same way it is forgotten that the Great Depression of 1929 isn't the first one in US history the Panic of 1873 was also called the Great Depression until the one we all think of now.
I couldn't agree more. The social democracy we see today in the European welfare states is essentially an ideology built out of the European states’ fear of communism and socialism because they had class consciousness. I didn’t know the historical details you mentioned about the U.S. and socialism. It seems that the sociological and psychological impact of the Cold War on the American public has dominated U.S. politics for a long time, to the point where communism and socialism can be seen as almost equivalent to a form of terrorism. The U.S. is such a huge country that even its minorities are actually large in number tho.
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I couldn't agree more. The social democracy we see today in the European welfare states is essentially an ideology built out of the European states’ fear of communism and socialism because they had class consciousness. I didn’t know the historical details you mentioned about the U.S. and socialism. It seems that the sociological and psychological impact of the Cold War on the American public has dominated U.S. politics for a long time, to the point where communism and socialism can be seen as almost equivalent to a form of terrorism. The U.S. is such a huge country that even its minorities are actually large in number tho.
That is the same reason the New Deal was done in the USA in the 1930s. FDR though welfare/social security was the only thing that could stabilize and rescue capitalism. Social Security and Unemployment benefits were designed to prevent radical fascists or communist from rising to power.
We helped rebuild Europe after the war so you might have gotten the ideas from us, but I don't know about that.
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That is the same reason the New Deal was done in the USA in the 1930s. FDR though welfare/social security was the only thing that could stabilize and rescue capitalism. Social Security and Unemployment benefits were designed to prevent radical fascists or communist from rising to power.
We helped rebuild Europe after the war so you might have gotten the ideas from us, but I don't know about that.
Back then it was the New Deal now the "center-left" serves as an alternative form of camouflage.
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