Are you liberal or conservative?

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I have disdain for the police. I like the idea of police, but they are poorly trained and managed, and I think that's by design.

How can you have disdain for the police? The police is part of the government. Without the police, we'd be in grave danger (unless the police is part of a dangerous country like North Korea). I really hope you're talking about the North Korean police.

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I believe taxation is theft.

That's in the United States. Without tax, we won't have the government spending money on health, which is super important because without health, anyone could end up in the ambulance.

In my country I'd consider myself left-leaning centrist. In the US I would probably be called far left lol because they have no idea what actual socialism is. The Democrats are as far from Marxists as the previously less extreme Republicans. The Republicans have shifted so far to the right that I guess everyone looks like a crazy liberal who's even slightly left of that.

We have high taxes which means I don't have to pay for healthcare, education or other basic necessities. It also means our poor are still relatively well taken care of which means violent crime is very low here. The homeless population is far smaller than in the US and not a problem. Public transport is widely used, safe and convenient. I'm happy to pay for all of that with my taxes. I assume people who have that "I got mine, fuck the rest of you" attitude just assume nothing will ever happen to them to leave them unable to make a lot of money.

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We have high taxes which means I don't have to pay for healthcare, education or other basic necessities. It also means our poor are still relatively well taken care of which means violent crime is very low here. The homeless population is far smaller than in the US and not a problem. Public transport is widely used, safe and convenient. I'm happy to pay for all of that with my taxes.

In the United States, we don't pay for healthcare because health insurance pays for it. K-12 education is free, and homeless people still have help available. The poor are also taken care of, violent crimes don't happen here (or if they do, it's once in a blue moon in places like my area), and lots of people do use public transport.

Yeah. My area is just like yours, and I'm in the United States.

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In the United States, we don't pay for healthcare because health insurance pays for it. K-12 education is free, and homeless people still have help available. The poor are also taken care of, violent crimes don't happen here (or if they do, it's once in a blue moon in places like my area), and lots of people do use public transport.

Yeah. My area is just like yours, and I'm in the United States.

I've lived in the US and all the things I mentioned are objective facts, you can look up the stats if you don't believe me. Health insurance is heavily dependent on your job, a lot of stuff is not covered, college fees are insane and there were homeless people in all the big cities I visited. Violent, crazy ones, too. If you live in some small town obviously that won't be a problem.

it's just crazy to me that you claim there's no difference in public transport between the US and Europe...like in what universe. There were two trains a day travelling out of Miami. Two. Per day. There's two trains every five minutes in comparably large European cities. I used a Greyhound bus once and thought I was gonna get murdered for sure, both based on some of my fellow passengers and the areas these bus stations were in.

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Health insurance is heavily dependent on your job, a lot of stuff is not covered,

Health insurance exists for people who don't have a job. Tons of US citizens under 18 already have health insurance.

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college fees are insane

Shocking unless you get a grant like the Pell Grant.

Not much into politics but I'm mostly left leaning person but looking at American libs and cons both are quite right wing in comparison

Leftist and Liberal and get MORE so as I get older and see how fucking evil many right wingers and "conservatives" (mainly religious conservatives) are.

And vaccines, at least until post-Covid era, were never really a left v right, liberal v conservative thing. There were, and still are, many very left leaning anti-vaxxers. It was always more science v anti-science and conventional medicine vs alt medicine. It could be argued that for most of the movements timeline, anti-vaxxing was actually the realm of very liberal thinkers that were more hippy alt lifestyle types. Some of which got railroaded and pipeline into the alt-right during Covid era when vaccine mandates became a much bigger thing.