where do you draw the line between casual and real/hardcore fan? i think if you don't mind constantly spending on your favs stuff(music, merch, concerts etc) and actually bother to learn the language since most of the content groups put out probably won't

There's nothing wrong with being either a casual or hard stan. But I'd say a person graduates from being a casual stan when they actually start to actively throw money at the group.

Unless the idols are showing up in your sleepy dreams you ain't hardcore fan

all I know being a hardcore can be

-not needed money or buying power to be hardcore fans
-and not needed to be loyal to one artist only

- you can be hardcore fan as a multi stan
- buying only multi album a year to none at all
-just following/update either by reading articles or join KPOP forum in any platform by internet/social doesnt make a difference


while
I don't judge casual fans someday they can be a real hardcore fans

also I don't use it as a weapon in comment or discussion✌

I don't think there is a line, personally.

Every defines themselves as being a fan and I think that what matters the most.

I think for me and me only, my line is when I go from only listening to their music to start watching their content. You'd be surprised how few people--fandom members included--don't even bother to fheck out these things.

There's nothing wrong with being a fan per se, it's when it get obsessional that's a problem.

to me there's casual fans, fans and stans...in various degrees of knowledge about the group, their songs, other non-musical activities, amount of money spent on them etc etc