The reason why 'More & More' and 'Scientist' are so weak compared to Twice's other title tracks

I hate these songs I’m trying to like it tho but I just can’t it’s not twice

It’s really funny to see people say they like More & More now because it was hell in 2020 for Onces when it came out :’) The hate was crazyyyy

How you do go from feel special to M&M it’s not bad but it was a downgrade.

I think not, I think it's the chorus. Both were sung in much lower pitch than usual Twice's songs which made many Onces not like it (they think it feels "empty"/"flat", however they mention how the last chorus is better, which is when Nayeon goes higher). But More&More had a more trendier sound which helped them achieve some international success, while Scientist sounds cute, playful & is not attractive to these new found casual listeners. Thus nobody gave Scientist enough love for it not to flop

I heard that More and More got a lot of casuals into Twice tho. I personally like Scientist but it definitely wasn't their strongest. I know they just released that album so they could Tour.

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JYPE sprinkled some kpop over songs with western pop structures

You just described literally all Kpop songs. People need to stop acting like Kpop is its own genre. It's not. It might be sung in a different language, and it might have a certain quirkiness that you don't often find in western pop, but at the end of the day it's still pop. And a much larger portion is taken directly from western demos or made by western producers than you realize. You don't like these songs as much because... you don't like them as much. Not because of their origin. The producers maybe, but not the place of origin.

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I never said Scientist and More & More were bad songs. Just that they were weaker in comparison to Twice's other title tracks and stood out in a weird way because they were originally western pop songs and Twice's signature sound is bubblegum kpop.

The west invented bubblegum pop. And the more simplistic style of instrumental you describe isn't universal to western artists either. You'll find all sorts of sounds, especially if you include older songs. People tend to forget that much of Kpop is essentially outdated by design, as it's not based on the most recent western pop trends, but older ones. This is less true now than it used to be, but it still holds up to a large degree. Not that there's anything wrong with this; some of the biggest western pop artists are currently busy trying to revive 80's music.